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.223 or .22LR?
*Bonsaiguy*
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horn .223 or .22LR?
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I posted this as an answer to a thread a few days ago. Don't know how many saw it , so thought I would start a new . just to let the uninformed know something. In light of all DHS Ammo and rifle purchases. You know, the same guns that they don't want you to own. The same ammo that is outlawed for the military all around the world , DHS Is buying all they can get their hands on, Same for the AR15 " Assault rifle". .223 ammo is near impossible to find , the rifles have tripled in price, if you can find them. But here's the kicker , that same rifle, what's a cheap 200 dollar conversion kit, just the bolt and bolt carrier only, and the magazine of course will now fire the. 22LR bullet. Yep, for less than $200 retail, your high dollar ammunition firing " assault rifle" the one you are not allowed to have, will now shoot the cheapest ammo ever made. So no more crap about the .223 stuff being for practice! They're using the .22 for practice. And saving t[/align]he. 223 for other [align=justify]purposes?
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SexualChocolate
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Post: #2
.223 or .22LR?
first thing, if buying an AR get one chambered for 5.56 NATO.
This will fire both .223 and 5.56

once chambered for .223 will only fire (safely) .223

the pressures of 5.56 is above what it safe for .223 chambered guns.

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Post: #3
.223 or .22LR?
SexualChocolate  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:29 PM)
first thing, if buying an AR get one chambered for 5.56 NATO.
This will fire both .223 and 5.56

once chambered for .223 will only fire (safely) .223

the pressures of 5.56 is above what it safe for .223 chambered guns.

I understand what you're saying but it's about the load and not caliber classification. The math bears that out.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:33 PM)
SexualChocolate  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:29 PM)
first thing, if buying an AR get one chambered for 5.56 NATO.
This will fire both .223 and 5.56

once chambered for .223 will only fire (safely) .223

the pressures of 5.56 is above what it safe for .223 chambered guns.

I understand what you're saying but it's about the load and not caliber classification. The math bears that out.

not just the load but the charge behind it. firing 5.56 out of a .223 chambered gun may not blow up in your face but doing so over time will wear out the barrel and rifleing. It COULD fail at some point.
If you just get the 5.56 you can shoot whatever without worry.
you never know if you have to use a clip taken from a dead guy, and if he is a soldier it would most certainly be 5.56 not .223

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Why would you want to put a beetle engine in a Ferrari?
Fair enough the 22LR conversion kit may be of some use is you really cannot get hold of 5.56 but if you start plinking at people, particularly armoured people of a military persuasion 22LR is just gonna piss them off and get you killed.
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Post: #6
.223 or .22LR?
You can buy a brand new Marlin model 70 .22 for under $200 and trick it out with a 25 shot clip.
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Everybody's right! But we purchased a DPMS AR15, bare bones. No sights even. One 20 round mag for $649.00 like six months ago before all went crazy. Bought the kit. Just the two items, the bolt and carrier. No tools installation. A new mag and it goes bang every time. Never a feed issue nor ejection either. I would never suggest anything unsafe. I know these work. Even using bulk Winchester from Walmart. You know, 550 count for $19.98? Same for the 333 count stuff too. So far no problems with feeding, firing or ejection. Ans is so quiet too. Oh, and cheap. Pretty much done with shooting for fun though. Have four Walmarts within 15 miles or so. Haven't seen a box in a while.
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Post: #8
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I have never seen an AR-15 or Marlin 70 designed to take a clip
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[img][Image: notsureifserious.jpg][/img]LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:01 PM)
I have never seen an AR-15 or Marlin 70 designed to take a clip

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barnaclebill  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:17 PM)
link to image: link to image: http://gifsforum.com/images/image/not%20...erious.jpgLoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:01 PM)
I have never seen an AR-15 or Marlin 70 designed to take a clip

Clip:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_(ammunition)

Not to be confused with Magazine (firearms):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearms)
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.223 or .22LR?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:21 PM)
barnaclebill  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:17 PM)
link to image: link to image: http://gifsforum.com/images/image/not%20...erious.jpgLoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:01 PM)
I have never seen an AR-15 or Marlin 70 designed to take a clip

Clip:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_(ammunition)

Not to be confused with Magazine (firearms):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearms)

But...have you ever seen an AR read a magazine...while taking a crap?chuckle

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.223 or .22LR?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:21 PM)
barnaclebill  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:17 PM)
link to image: link to image: http://gifsforum.com/images/image/not%20...erious.jpgLoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:01 PM)
I have never seen an AR-15 or Marlin 70 designed to take a clip

Clip:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clip_(ammunition)

Not to be confused with Magazine (firearms):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearms)
Yea. Clip vs mag. My Mosin is loaded via clip. But the clip is preloaded with a few rounds, then placed into the rifle while the bolt is back. Then you just ram the bullets into the internal, non removeable magazine.
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Post: #13
.223 or .22LR?
SexualChocolate  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:33 PM)
SexualChocolate  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:29 PM)
first thing, if buying an AR get one chambered for 5.56 NATO.
This will fire both .223 and 5.56

once chambered for .223 will only fire (safely) .223

the pressures of 5.56 is above what it safe for .223 chambered guns.

I understand what you're saying but it's about the load and not caliber classification. The math bears that out.

not just the load but the charge behind it. firing 5.56 out of a .223 chambered gun may not blow up in your face but doing so over time will wear out the barrel and rifleing. It COULD fail at some point.
If you just get the 5.56 you can shoot whatever without worry.
you never know if you have to use a clip taken from a dead guy, and if he is a soldier it would most certainly be 5.56 not .223

If you want to be able to fire both...and fire them both accurately you want a rifle chambered 223 wylde. that will give you a sufficient amount of space before the lands start for both rounds...and the strength to handle the added pressures the 5.56 produces. I reload all mine to 223 specs. but my match grade 223 wylde shoots them both equally well. Most of my brass is lake city that started life as military surplus xm855 or 193.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 05:43 PM)
SexualChocolate  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2013 04:33 PM)
I understand what you're saying but it's about the load and not caliber classification. The math bears that out.

not just the load but the charge behind it. firing 5.56 out of a .223 chambered gun may not blow up in your face but doing so over time will wear out the barrel and rifleing. It COULD fail at some point.
If you just get the 5.56 you can shoot whatever without worry.
you never know if you have to use a clip taken from a dead guy, and if he is a soldier it would most certainly be 5.56 not .223

If you want to be able to fire both...and fire them both accurately you want a rifle chambered 223 wylde. that will give you a sufficient amount of space before the lands start for both rounds...and the strength to handle the added pressures the 5.56 produces. I reload all mine to 223 specs. but my match grade 223 wylde shoots them both equally well. Most of my brass is lake city that started life as military surplus xm855 or 193.

good point but I think that would be a bit pricey for most. including me.

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.who .cares

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