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Big Bang theory under threat from quantum graphity breakthrough
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Big Bang theory under threat from quantum graphity breakthrough
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AUSTRALIAN researchers believe they may be on the brink of rewriting the history of the universe.

A paper being published in a US physics journal suggests it may be possible to view "cracks" in the universe that would support the theory of "quantum graphity", considered to be the holy grail of physics.

The team of researchers from the University of Melbourne and RMIT say that instead of thinking of the start of the universe as being a big bang, we should imagine it as a cooling of water into ice.

"Think of the early universe as being like a liquid," Melbourne University theoretical physics researcher James Quach said.

"Then as the universe cools, it `crystalises'.

"The reason we use the water analogy is water is without form.

Their research rests on a school of thought that has emerged recently to suggest space is made of indivisible building blocks, like atoms, that can be thought of as similar to pixels that make up images on a computer screen.

Mr Quach says the standing model for the origins of the universe, the big bang, needs to be rewritten.

He hopes experimentalists will be able to find evidence to support the theory put forward by the Melbourne team of researchers, that would replace it.

"The biggest problem with the big bang model is the bang itself," Mr Quach says.

"At the bang, physics breaks down.

"The model cannot make any predictions at what occurs at the big bang. You can't use any of the mathematics (or) any of the theories."


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lol it sounds very air tight
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Blitzkreig  Wrote: (08-20-2012 01:10 PM)
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lol it sounds very air tight

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CourtDude  Wrote: (08-20-2012 01:28 PM)
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Scientists will never get it right, maybe if they looked a little closer to Earth...

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Scientists will never get it right, maybe if they looked a little closer to Earth...

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Interesting post, REC, thanks. I think the book is far from shut as to a scientific model that explains how all this "stuff" came to be. So now we have a suggestion it crystallized. I like that and it certainly fits the metaphysical views of Eastern philosophy.

The Big Bang, essentially a singularity that burst at the seams, has always been a flawed metaphor. In the TV science programs it's always depicted as a enormous explosion but of course that would have been impossible. There would be no light, fire or sound for eons yet to come. Inflation theory, which is posited to explain how the universe became so large after the big bang, uses the more realistic analogy of a rapidly expanding balloon. But that doesn't make for very exciting visuals. Metaphors are important though; our world view is reflected in them.

All that aside though, there is experimental evidence for both the "bang" and the inflation in the sky map of background radiation. Any competing theory is going to need to explain that as well, regardless of how right it might feel.
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ASA  Wrote: (08-20-2012 03:04 PM)
Interesting post, REC, thanks. I think the book is far from shut as to a scientific model that explains how all this "stuff" came to be. So now we have a suggestion it crystallized. I like that and it certainly fits the metaphysical views of Eastern philosophy.

The Big Bang, essentially a singularity that burst at the seams, has always been a flawed metaphor. In the TV science programs it's always depicted as a enormous explosion but of course that would have been impossible. There would be no light, fire or sound for eons yet to come. Inflation theory, which is posited to explain how the universe became so large after the big bang, uses the more realistic analogy of a rapidly expanding balloon. But that doesn't make for very exciting visuals. Metaphors are important though; our world view is reflected in them.

All that aside though, there is experimental evidence for both the "bang" and the inflation in the sky map of background radiation. Any competing theory is going to need to explain that as well, regardless of how right it might feel.

Neat post. Cheers
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