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Brain activity found after ‘brain death’
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Brain activity found after ‘brain death’
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LOS ANGELES—Maybe cats have nine lives, or maybe brain-dead people aren’t so dead.

Parts of the brain may still be active after a commonly used brain activity reading goes to a flat line, according to a study on cat brains published on Wednesday in the online journal PLOS One.

The study came after Romanian doctors noticed odd electroencephalogram (EEG) activity in a patient who had lapsed into a coma while under the influence of anti-seizure medication.

Researchers at the Universite de Montreal put 26 cats under deep anesthesia and recorded their brain activity in the upper cortical regions and hippocampus.

In all of the cats, a previously undocumented “ripple event” was evident in the hippocampus after EEG readouts went “flat,” indicating a silenced cortex. The results appeared to replicate what had been seen in the human patient, according to the study.

The findings could revive debate over the criteria for declaring a person “brain dead.” In the US two such flat-line readings 24 hours apart are necessary, along with other tests of brain function.

Researchers said their findings suggest that the brain can survive an extremely deep coma and that inducing such a state could help preserve some brain function that otherwise might cease, causing the brain to atrophy.

Scientists have been steadily probing the nature of brain activity at the border of death. Evidence of a sharp burst in brain activity after cardiac arrest suggest a neural explanation for anecdotes from patients who have recovered from near-death experiences, including a sensation of leaving the body, and deep memories flickering in dream-like fashion.

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et panis oris intus animae meae
et virtus maritans mentem meam
et sinum cogitationis meae ?
Non te amabam,
et fornicabar abs te,
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Ahanata
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Brain activity found after ‘brain death’
Much much more investigation is necessary for brain death and the NDE phenomenon.

Call it one of the last unexplored realms.

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An NDE is our soul leaving the body. In near-death states, we cannot make observations of our own body which can later be confirmed, someone has to inform of us of what happened. If we know exactly what happened at a distance that we could not have sensed then science has no explanation for it.

One can argue that the body still functions even while in shock, but people's own body awareness can shut off during shock, yet they can still remain aware, but that awareness is beyond their own body as they are often no longer feeling any pain from what is happening in the situation, yet they are still aware.
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Ahanata  Wrote: (09-22-2013 03:43 AM)
Much much more investigation is necessary for brain death and the NDE phenomenon.

Call it one of the last unexplored realms.

Thanks Chairman Meow.

Remember the Movie "Brainstorms"? All about this. chuckle

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... turning blue aint no biggie, been there done that ... but sometimes i wonder if i didn't bring someone or something back with me ?

imagine if you will , a dimension where layered scientific metaphors get confused as religious texts . you have left the intellectual zone .
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Interesting story about a man thought to be in a coma but was not

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/20...f=obinsite

Quote:n what can only be described as a harrowing instance of misdiagnosis, a Belgian man presumed comatose for 23 years after a near-fatal car crash was actually conscious and paralyzed the entire time. Rom Houben, whose real state was discovered three years ago but only now made public, could be one of many falsely diagnosed coma cases, raising serious questions about those diagnosed as "vegetative" and, even more frighteningly, the process by which vegetative people are removed from life support.

Houben, now in a facility in Brussels and communicating via a computer controlled by his minimally functioning right hand, came around after his 1983 car accident. But while he could hear every word his doctors spoke, he could not speak to them, nor could he move his body to communicate with them in any way. For years researchers and doctors tried to coax a response from Houben, who all along was trapped within his own body, living a life of frustration with his inability to interact.

"I screamed, but there was nothing to hear," he told the Guardian via his computer.
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does this mean were alive until the funeral home begins draining blood from us and hearing/feeling everything but cant respond ? Ktrkrlnn

imagine if you will , a dimension where layered scientific metaphors get confused as religious texts . you have left the intellectual zone .
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T Ceti H.C.Radnarg  Wrote: (09-22-2013 05:01 AM)
does this mean were alive until the funeral home begins draining blood from us and hearing/feeling everything but cant respond ? Ktrkrlnn

Yes.

Deus lumen cordis mei
et panis oris intus animae meae
et virtus maritans mentem meam
et sinum cogitationis meae ?
Non te amabam,
et fornicabar abs te,
et fornicanti sonabat undique :
''euge, euge''.
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T Ceti H.C.Radnarg  Wrote: (09-22-2013 04:05 AM)
... turning blue aint no biggie, been there done that ... but sometimes i wonder if i didn't bring someone or something back with me ?

Ah sir, now you actually brought me back and while you weren't looking I slipped into your pc and I'm now in the machine you all call the www.

After spending a while looking through all the accumulated knowledge of humanity........... I want to go home!

Now....Right now!.


FFS HELL is better than this fracked up realm....

...most of you humans are monsters I tell you.chuckle
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Convicted Criminal  Wrote: (09-22-2013 05:17 AM)
T Ceti H.C.Radnarg  Wrote: (09-22-2013 05:01 AM)
does this mean were alive until the funeral home begins draining blood from us and hearing/feeling everything but cant respond ? Ktrkrlnn

Yes.
... cant be no worst than 25+ years of severe scoliosis ...

imagine if you will , a dimension where layered scientific metaphors get confused as religious texts . you have left the intellectual zone .
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Obviously there is activity after "brain dead",.... most of the posters at LoP are living proof!
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