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ET UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed CEO Admitted In His Deathbed

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ET UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed CEO Admitted In His Deathbed
I have an open mind when it comes to UFOs. It doesn´t mean I believe on whatever I read because I know there is a lot of disinformation out there. Still, when an article such as this one comes out, it makes up for an interesting read.

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ET UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed CEO Admitted In His Deathbed

August 31,2010

Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and U.S. Military travel to stars.
According to article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal - Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works, once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real And U.S. Military Travel To Stars

What he said might be new to many people today, but he revealed the information before his death in January 1995. His statements helped to give credence to reports that the U.S. military has been flying vehicles that mimic alien craft.

The article was written by Tom Keller, an aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems analyst for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
NUGGET ONE: “Inside the Skunk Works (Lockheed’s secret research and development entity), we were a small, intensely cohesive group consisting of about fifty veteran engineers and designers and a hundred or so expert machinists and shop workers. Our forte was building technologically advanced airplanes of small number and of high class for highly secret missions.

NUGGET TWO: “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.

NUGGET THREE: “We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”

NUGGET FOUR: When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?”The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”
Ben RichLockheed Former CEO knew of extraterrestrial UFO visitors

Lockheed "Skunk Works" former CEO knew the Roswell extraterrestrial UFO influenced designs of Testor model kits for Roswell UFO models, and U.S. top secret aircraft. According to a CNI News report by Colorado resident Michael Lindemann, the design information was derived from forensic illustrations and numerous witness testimonies about the Roswell UFO, provided by William L. “Bill” McDonald.

In an e-mail, dated July 29, 1999, apparently addressed to Lindemann, McDonald referenced an excerpt of a discussion with Harold Puthoff, founder of the highly classified U.S. “remote viewing” program.
McDonald said: “Well Hal, you asked for it! Now that legendary Lockheed engineer and chief model kit designer for the Testor Corporation, John Andrews, is dead, I can announce that he personally confirmed the design connection between the Roswell Spacecraft and the Lockheed Martin Unmanned Combat Air Vehicles (UCAVs), spyplanes, Joint Strike Fighters, and Space Shuttles.

Andrews was a close personal friend of "Skunk Works" CEO Ben Rich -- the hand-picked successor of Skunk Works founder Kelly Johnson and the man famous for the F-117 Nighthawk "Stealth" fighter, its "half-pint" prototype the "HAVE BLUE", and the top-secret F-19 Stealth Interceptor. Before Rich died of cancer, Andrews took my questions to him.
Dr. Ben R. Rich former Lockheed Skunk Works CEO confirmed:

1. There are 2 types of UFOs -- the ones we build and ones 'they' build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual "hand-me-downs." The Government knew and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon "purge", administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector…

2. Nearly all "biomorphic" aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft -- from Kelly's SR-71 Blackbird onward to today's drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft…

3. It was Ben Rich's opinion that the public should not be told [about UFOs and extraterrestrials] . He believed they could not handle the truth -- ever. Only in the last months of his decline did he begin to feel that the "international corporate board of directors" dealing with the "Subject" could represent a bigger problem to citizens' personal freedoms under the United States Constitution than the presence of off-world visitors themselves.”
Lindemann added that “Bill McDonald received the above information from Andrews from 1994 until their last phone call near Christmas in 1998.” Lindemann also noted “It should also be known that Dr. Ben R. Rich attended a public aerospace designers and engineers conference in 1993 before his illness overwhelmed him in which he stated -- in the presence of MUFON Orange County Section Director Jan Harzan and many others that – ‘We’ (i.e., the U.S. aerospace community/military industrial complex) had in it's possession the technology to "take us to the stars".

See the complete letter in May, 2010 MUFON UFO Journal from John Andrews and the hand written reply from Dr. Ben Rich. Hear more revealing testimony from Disclosure Project whistleblowers. NASA can not deny secrets discovered by UK hacker Gary McKinnon and many astronauts if it expects full funding from the Obama White House administration.
Lockheed Skunkworks Engineer USAF, and CIA Contractor Admitted: UFO Are Real

Don Phillips, "These UFOs were huge and they would just come to a stop and do a 60 degree, 45 degree, 10 degree turn, and then immediately reverse this action". During the Apollo landing, Neil Armstrong says, "They're here.They are right over there and looking at the size of those ships., it is obvious they dont like us being here”. When I was working with the Skunkworks with Kelly Johnson, we signed an agreement with the government to keep very quiet about this.

Anti-gravitational research was going on. We know that there were some captured craft from 1947 in Roswell, they were real. And, yes, we really did get some technology from them. And, yes, we really did put it to work. We knew each other from what we call an unseen industry. We can term it black, deep black, or hidden.

The knowledge I have of these technologies came from the craft that were captured here. I didn`t see the craft, nor did I see the bodies, but I certainly know some of the people that did. There was no question that there were beings from outside the planet.

Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago .We got these things that are handhold scanners that scan the body and determine what the condition is. We can also treat from the same scanner.

I can tell you personally that we've been working on them. And we have ones that can diagnose and cure cancer. One of the purposes I had for founding my technology corporation in 1998 was to bring forth these technologies that can clean the air and can help get rid of the toxins, and help reduce the need for so much fossil fuel. Yes, it is time. I can tell you personally that it has already started.
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Ironhide  Wrote:
Are these ET people hostile? Well, if they were hostile, with their weaponry they could have destroyed us a long time ago .We got these things that are handhold scanners that scan the body and determine what the condition is. We can also treat from the same scanner.

I can tell you personally that we've been working on them. And we have ones that can diagnose and cure cancer. One of the purposes I had for founding my technology corporation in 1998 was to bring forth these technologies that can clean the air and can help get rid of the toxins, and help reduce the need for so much fossil fuel. Yes, it is time. I can tell you personally that it has already started.

Alright it's been 12 years. Where is the tech? People are still trying to get a sandwich on the street. Let's start with feeding the world before we get all star trek on civilisation's ass.

Just one hungry mouth. Then we can be Wingmakers.

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Interesting.

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more ref here

Your thread unfortunately slipped through ...
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09-08-2010 10:36 PM

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I personally don't believe their extraterrestrial but, i do believe ufo's exist, just have a different origin.

Nice story though.
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09-08-2010 10:46 PM

 



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I do believe in UFO's and believe the accident occurred in the desert. If cancer can be cured, it is not the proper thing to do withholding this information from the public.
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09-08-2010 11:07 PM

 



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Quote:NUGGET TWO: “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.

What kills this story is that we spend BILLIONS every year on the space shuttle.

We just spent BILLIONS developing the Raptor fighter.

Spending tons of money on obsolete technology is idiotic.

Its like have a jet plane...but building buggy's to be pulled by horses. And not using the jets.
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09-08-2010 11:11 PM

 



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I guess we should be looking for evidence on the cancer thing. Have any wealthy industrialists, bankers, or media moguls died from cancer lately?
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09-08-2010 11:13 PM

 



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What kills this story is that we spend BILLIONS every year on the space shuttle.

We just spent BILLIONS developing the Raptor fighter.

Spending tons of money on obsolete technology is idiotic.

Its like have a jet plane...but building buggy's to be pulled by horses. And not using the jets.

Gotta maintain appearances. House of cards.
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LoP Guest  Wrote:
What kills this story is that we spend BILLIONS every year on the space shuttle.

We just spent BILLIONS developing the Raptor fighter.

Spending tons of money on obsolete technology is idiotic.

Its like have a jet plane...but building buggy's to be pulled by horses. And not using the jets.

Exactly. My company builds lots of "obsolete" aircraft, from the 777 and 787 commercial craft to the F/A-18E/F and AH-64D, and the government -- and a lot of foreign governments and private companies -- keeps giving us bazillions of dollars to do so.

That right there is the best evidence I can thik of why all this stuff about Secret Spaceship Guys Shit makes no sense!

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They probably wouldn't want the public to see this kind of technology. My guess is they'd pursue it with a very specific goal: limited and controlled contact for the purpose of acquiring general information about Earth and our role in the universe - a basic orientation. They'd do it covertly to avoid social and economic panic.

They wouldn't suddenly start rolling ET technology out of factories for mass consumption without this orientation knowledge.
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I believe they are holding out on us big time and they have absolutely no right to do it. If anything is out there and does benefit the human race, what right do these pricks have to withhold such information on us?
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Tatsuya  Wrote:
I personally don't believe their extraterrestrial but, i do believe ufo's exist, just have a different origin.

Nice story though.

Do you understand that the UFOs and stuff existed for thousands of years rather than just since the 40s, and thus the paradigm model of it just only being the secret space program is actually wrong?

You just have to use simple process of elimination deductive logic

Example 1:

"UFOs exist in paintings and drawings hundreds of years old, therefore are not just a recent development of the secret space program"

Example 2:

"Crop circles contain things like PI encoded in them, therefore the theory that crop circles could just be earth energies is false, and they are intelligently designed, if it were earth energies, there would only be shapes and not things like mathematical PI and butterlies and stuff on them AS WELL"

see if you dont look at everything you can draw false conclusions and just say something like "Personally i believe _________________"

see? here:

http://xfacts.com/old/
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No offense, but message board posters will say things without all the information, because they never been exposed to all the info

for example, a woman who never saw UFO evidence of hundreds of years ago might just type on a message board this:

"personally i believe UFOs exist, but are not Extraterrestrial"

so people just type things when they havent seen all the data yet

This is what people on message boards do, often, No offense

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