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**Stephen Cold Beer (DF)**

well then..this is a major step.

User ID: 3259 03-10-2010 04:23 PM **Posts: 17,775**

As as ex Navy Seal ole Jesse is well aware of what the U.S. government is capable of.....

**Cassandra**

So were these guys:

[Image: humanoid_mexico.jpg]

**Anonymous Coward** Lopster User ID: 2375 03-10-2010 06:59 PM

***DF SUPER LEADER*** User ID: 4172 03-10-2010 07:08 PM **Posts: 2,364**

Cassandra Wrote:

So were these guys:

link to image: http://deny.ignorance.perso.cegetel.net/...mexico.jpg

link to image: http://www.cnufos.com/pages/newsandstori...anoid7.jpg

Who are 'These' guys?

**Chromick** · **Chromick** User ID: 2625 03-10-2010 07:14 PM **Posts: 114**

I wonder how long before MSM discredits Jesse Ventura and make him look like some nutcase.

~~Angel of the Air~~

Chromick Wrote:

I wonder how long before MSM discredits Jesse Ventura and make him look like some nutcase.

I'm sure that this is the intention. And JV is going along with it all. Don't forget that he was a media personality for quite some time in 'professional' wrestling and that he has a TV show.

A person can't express views like this and keep their face on the TV. I think that this is some kind of set-up.

**Andromeda** · (This post was last modified: 03-10-2010 08:03 PM by Andromeda.)

He raises a lot of great questions in his review of that book. However, to say that means the government was involved requires a lot of assumptions one can't really make.

Firstly, don't we already know the Bush Administration was incredibly negligent and ignored just about everything it could ignore, in the most incompetent ways possible that makes it look as if it helped create the problems intentionally. Like the way it ignored the growing mortgage-backed-securities debt bomb that experts were sounding alarms over for years. What did the Bush gov't do? Nothing, and it even went so far as to shift money away from the mortgage fraud units in the Justice Dept.

You can go to every sector of society and our economy and find great examples of how the Bush Administration deregulated, defunded and ignored obvious growing problems, so that it looks as if they were almost conspiring to create crashes and disasters. Does that mean his Administration was actually conspiring to make these problems happen, or just that it was incompetent and foolishly anti-regulation? You'd need an expert in each field and organizational psychology to answer that question.

Secondly, the engineering and chemical clues are vague and don't actually support conclusions one way or the other. They just raise questions and act like clues that imply better investigation might have revealed some actual answers, but that better investigation never materialized.

Thirdly, governments lie and cover up problems, and the Bush Administration did that a lot. Remember when Bush went to New Orleans and declared "Great job, Brownie"! Or his famous "Mission Accomplished" celebratory speech? Plus all the stuff about Hussein having weapons of mass destruction, and the "evidence" put in front of the U.N. that sought permission to invade Iraq. The Bush Administration were pathological liars and the Democrats acted like tools the whole time -- during the first 6 years of his tenure.

It just doesn't surprise me that this big fat fail and disaster in 2001 wasn't covered up and lied about, no matter what dumb reason they might have had for that. It's how our leaders conduct business now!

IMO when it comes to 9/11, I just see a conspiracy of fools: the stupidity, dishonesty and negligence of our leadership conspires to harm us whether they have a plan to blow up buildings or not.

~~Angel of the Air~~

don't we already know the Bush Administration was incredibly negligent and ignored just about everything it could ignore

They did more than neglect. The Stand Down orders were active enabling.

CJCSI 3610.01.A

And this order has yet to be changed.

**Anonymous Coward** Guest of Intrigue User ID: 4225 03-10-2010 08:30 PM

Wasn't that Cheney's doing?

**Andromeda** · **Andromeda** Double Tap User ID: 4139 03-10-2010 08:37 PM **Posts: 7,391**

ArchAngel Wrote:

don't we already know the Bush Administration was incredibly negligent and ignored just about everything it could ignore

They did more than neglect. The Stand Down orders were active enabling.

CJCSI 3610.01.A

And this order has yet to be changed.

It does look like there might have been inside information leaked or some kind of security issue there!

**Anonymous Coward** Cannon Fodder User ID: 4163 03-10-2010 08:42 PM

Chromick Wrote:

I wonder how long before MSM discredits Jesse Ventura and make him look like some nutcase.

Yeah like he would be caught wearing a pink boa or somethin'.

Lmao

**Anonymous Coward** Unsheeple User ID: 4163 03-10-2010 08:51 PM

Cassandra Wrote:

So were these guys:

link to image: http://deny.ignorance.perso.cegetel.net/...mexico.jpg

link to image: http://www.cnufos.com/pages/newsandstori...anoid7.jpg

yeah flying humanoids. I wonder where dey go?

~~Angel of the Air~~

Anonymous Coward Wrote:

Wasn't that Cheney's doing?

It was the Joint Chiefs of Staff. If the order for the change in defense plans in the event of air piracy was came from Cheney, Rumsfeld or Bush does it really matter?

The orders for the Administration come from the CFR. Put the blame on the richest and most powerful people in America.