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Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Riverman
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12-31-2012 02:18 AM

 



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RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
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Moronic logic.

With stricter gunlaws in the first place, that intruder would have probably not have been there at all.
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CupidStunt
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Post: #17
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:09 AM)
CupidStunt  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:03 AM)
Bond, James Bond  Wrote: (12-31-2012 01:40 AM)
Story is from June... facepalm

And he was the son of a cop and there is no evidence it was the sister the intruder was after.

A good watchdog would probably have been an even better deterrent.

http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/23/12-y...-intruder/
From October.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ruder.html
Also October.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/alabama-...daughters/
August.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/knife-wi...l-handgun/
And this one is NEAR MY HOME.

Why the f*#k is it so hard to understand, people ACTUALLY use guns for self defense?!

*Cue the shock and awe*

Some of us see the news every morning where guns are used in robberies, muggings, and senseless murders.

There's more a chance at someone living from encounter with a less armed criminal than there is from shootout.

You are kidding, right?! Do you not see why someone wants to own guns?!?

If you want to disarm criminals, you need to travel back in time and put your gun ban in place.

Passing a ban now Just disarms the law abiding citizens.

Do you honest to goodness think criminals would really say 'WHOA, better turn in my guns, that's against the law'. Really?!?

*Suffers from Vaginal Hubris*
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CupidStunt
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12-31-2012 02:28 AM

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Post: #18
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Riverman  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:18 AM)
Moronic logic.

With stricter gunlaws in the first place, that intruder would have probably not have been there at all.

AND YOU. You're trying to tell me that if we had stricter gun control laws, there would be less intruders and burglars? S977

Let's ask the Dr. in Connecticut whose wife and daughters were raped and set on fire. THEY WEREN'T ARMED.

*Suffers from Vaginal Hubris*
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LoP Guest
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12-31-2012 02:32 AM

 



Post: #19
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
CupidStunt  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:22 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:09 AM)
CupidStunt  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:03 AM)
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/23/12-y...-intruder/
From October.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ruder.html
Also October.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/alabama-...daughters/
August.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/knife-wi...l-handgun/
And this one is NEAR MY HOME.

Why the f*#k is it so hard to understand, people ACTUALLY use guns for self defense?!

*Cue the shock and awe*

Some of us see the news every morning where guns are used in robberies, muggings, and senseless murders.

There's more a chance at someone living from encounter with a less armed criminal than there is from shootout.

You are kidding, right?! Do you not see why someone wants to own guns?!?

If you want to disarm criminals, you need to travel back in time and put your gun ban in place.

Passing a ban now Just disarms the law abiding citizens.

Do you honest to goodness think criminals would really say 'WHOA, better turn in my guns, that's against the law'. Really?!?

Limit manufacture of firearms and ammunition.

Reducing the quantity of any product means eventually they'll be a rarity and highly coveted (see not used often).

This isn't a problem that can be solved in a simple way as "turn in your guns thanks" and it's sad to see both sides acting like this is how it will happen.

Reduce availability of ammunition and firearms, eventually through people turning them in, improper care, confiscation upon arrest, and legal owners seeing them as a valuable resource (therefore keeping a better eye on them) we will potentially see less and less criminals arming themselves.

Unless of course, legal gun owners continue selling arms to criminals for profit, then we work on removing the public ability to purchase them without serious registration and inspection.

Last part is an absolute end all idea, we're not close to that point yet as I still have hope in responsible gun owners, though even they'll admit there are too many irresponsible ones.
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CupidStunt
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12-31-2012 02:35 AM

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RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:32 AM)
CupidStunt  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:22 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:09 AM)
Some of us see the news every morning where guns are used in robberies, muggings, and senseless murders.

There's more a chance at someone living from encounter with a less armed criminal than there is from shootout.

You are kidding, right?! Do you not see why someone wants to own guns?!?

If you want to disarm criminals, you need to travel back in time and put your gun ban in place.

Passing a ban now Just disarms the law abiding citizens.

Do you honest to goodness think criminals would really say 'WHOA, better turn in my guns, that's against the law'. Really?!?

Limit manufacture of firearms and ammunition.

Reducing the quantity of any product means eventually they'll be a rarity and highly coveted (see not used often).

This isn't a problem that can be solved in a simple way as "turn in your guns thanks" and it's sad to see both sides acting like this is how it will happen.

Reduce availability of ammunition and firearms, eventually through people turning them in, improper care, confiscation upon arrest, and legal owners seeing them as a valuable resource (therefore keeping a better eye on them) we will potentially see less and less criminals arming themselves.

Unless of course, legal gun owners continue selling arms to criminals for profit, then we work on removing the public ability to purchase them without serious registration and inspection.

Last part is an absolute end all idea, we're not close to that point yet as I still have hope in responsible gun owners, though even they'll admit there are too many irresponsible ones.

Whoops, premature postage. chuckle

*Suffers from Vaginal Hubris*
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Bond, James Bond
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12-31-2012 02:36 AM

 



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RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
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Riverman
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12-31-2012 02:37 AM

 



Post: #22
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Trying to discuss gun control with the average american, is like trying to discuss evolution with some redneck christian, and common sense with a conspiracy-moron... lol
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12-31-2012 02:39 AM

 



Post: #23
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Riverman  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:37 AM)
Trying to discuss gun control with the average american, is like trying to discuss evolution with some redneck christian, and common sense with a conspiracy-moron... lol

Why do I get the feeling this bolded section has a lot to do with american issues?
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12-31-2012 02:40 AM

 



Post: #24
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Riverman  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:37 AM)
Trying to discuss gun control with the average american, is like trying to discuss evolution with some redneck christian, and common sense with a conspiracy-moron... lol


Trying to speak to a disarmed foreigner who is also a communist about the importance of the 2nd Amendment to Americans is pointless.
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CupidStunt
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12-31-2012 02:45 AM

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Post: #25
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Honestly, making them ridiculously expensive to buy ammo or maintain upkeep is going to work as well as outlawing marijuana or alcohol.

Because it's all cheap and easy. Lots of make their own bullets and perform their own gunsmithing. It's really not hard.

Now the one thing I WILL give you, is there needs to be tighter control on gun sales. There really are WAY too many criminals sending their homeboys with a clean rap sheet into walmart, or walking into gun shows and purchasing whatever they like.

Closing the gun show loophole (and places like gun trader) ARE already in the legislation process. As unpopular as it is, I actually DO support that.

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12-31-2012 02:50 AM

 



Post: #26
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
CupidStunt  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:45 AM)
Honestly, making them ridiculously expensive to buy ammo or maintain upkeep is going to work as well as outlawing marijuana or alcohol.

Because it's all cheap and easy. Lots of make their own bullets and perform their own gunsmithing. It's really not hard.

Now the one thing I WILL give you, is there needs to be tighter control on gun sales. There really are WAY too many criminals sending their homeboys with a clean rap sheet into walmart, or walking into gun shows and purchasing whatever they like.

Closing the gun show loophole (and places like gun trader) ARE already in the legislation process. As unpopular as it is, I actually DO support that.

Brass and gunpowder would be included.

Many buy refill kits, not many actually make things from scratch.

Also, I'd rather have someone like the guys at Red Jacket firearms by in control of gun ownership than any random turdball at wallyworld/sports shop.

It is these type of civil discussions about what the actual problem is that lead to potential fixes.

If both sides stick with "eff it no guns!" and "over mah dead body" we're no better than our "leaders" who cannot agree on anything in capitol hill.

And you're conspiracy members, I know you don't want to be labeled similar to politicians do you?
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noteye
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12-31-2012 02:59 AM

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Post: #27
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-31-2012 01:35 AM)
guns save children? sorry pal but this one incident doesn't negate the 20 innocent children killed at Sandy Hook.

Just one. Google before you mouth.

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-14-year-...ngs?page=1

CA Homeowner Shoots and Kills Armed Home Invader, Wounds 2 Others as Children Have Sleepover

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/vi...sleepover/

Homeowner Uses Gun to Fight Off 2 Violent Home Invaders, Saves Family

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/ho...es-family/

Resident Shoots and Kills Armed Intruder Protecting His Girlfriend and 2 Yr Old Child

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/re...old-child/
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12-31-2012 03:02 AM

 



Post: #28
RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
noteye  Wrote: (12-31-2012 02:59 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-31-2012 01:35 AM)
guns save children? sorry pal but this one incident doesn't negate the 20 innocent children killed at Sandy Hook.

Just one. Google before you mouth.

http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-14-year-...ngs?page=1

CA Homeowner Shoots and Kills Armed Home Invader, Wounds 2 Others as Children Have Sleepover

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/vi...sleepover/

Homeowner Uses Gun to Fight Off 2 Violent Home Invaders, Saves Family

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/ho...es-family/

Resident Shoots and Kills Armed Intruder Protecting His Girlfriend and 2 Yr Old Child

http://gunssavelives.net/self-defense/re...old-child/

Now look up homicide by use of firearms.
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CupidStunt
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RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
I'm all for responsible gun control talks. I've made like 30 posts today, and I've tried not to be inflammatory. It's blatantly stupid remarks that get me riled up. lol

There are other uses for brass and gunpowder. It's kinda like fertilizer or decongestants. You can put SOME restrictions there, and they might help, but it's not gonna eliminate the problem. With the right money, the right connections, you can get any amount of stuff.

Look at celebs and prescription drugs!

The point I'm trying to make, is the craziness of gun confiscation, is it mostly punishes those of us who hobby shoot.

I go to the range, I have a blast shooting all kinds of guns. I really would hate to lose that.

Just like when we used to mod out muscle cars. We aren't out street racing or speeding. We went to the track, we put it on a dyno, we had a blast.

*Suffers from Vaginal Hubris*
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RE: Guns save children. 15 year old shoots intruder and saves sister.
Or armed robbery.
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