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Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-09-2012 04:18 PM)
Dont have to, the real tapes are never going to see the light of day. Just like the "cell phone calls" these tapes have been faked. Sorry.

These tapes / both videos are agreeing with you, yet you won't watch them. Ok, I am done responding to you. Others can watch and judge for themselves and not listen to you. SHILL
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LOL How does a faked tape about Flight 11 agree with me? And of course I must be a shill for the government if I refuse to believe this silly bullshit, with conversations from and about a flight that never even took off that morning. Dumbass!
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RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-09-2012 05:01 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbREf_h09fA


Thanks for all of these videos!!!

1. Excellent
2. What if it was a drone into the Pentagon. Norman was a honest hero! And most of his comments are on video???? Also, went right through the same non-radar area.
3. THE MAIN POINT... "Let's Roll" .... Article with some good points on Critter 592 and United 93. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread463089/pg http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread268715/pg

What about Challenger and Columbia? Both had many large pieces left. Going at high rates of speed, some wreckage hitting both land and water???

4. Has got to be the best video I have seen about this! lol UNBELIEVABLE! : )

5. Wasn't aware of the 80 videos of the Pentagon.

6.
http://jalopnik.com/5838772/man-who-grou...of-his-job

George Bush speech on NWO Sept. 11 1991... Exactly ten years later.... Yeah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyh6w2_OcHs

7. FAKE

8. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

"8.It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner en route from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight. a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will begin transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio[18] stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident."

9.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payne_Stewart
"Stewart was killed in the depressurization of a Learjet flying from Orlando to Dallas, Texas for the year-ending tournament, The Tour Championship, held at Champions Golf Club in Houston that year. Stewart was planning to stop off in Dallas to discuss building a new home course for the SMU golf program.[3] The last communication received from the pilots was at 9:27 AM EDT, and the plane made a right turn at 9:30 AM EDT that was probably the result of human input. At 9:33 AM EDT the pilots did not respond to a call to change radio frequencies, and there was no further contact from the plane. The plane, apparently still on autopilot and angled off-course, was observed by several U.S. Air Force and Air National Guard F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter aircraft[4] as it continued its flight over the southern and midwestern United States. The military pilots observed frost or condensation on the windshield (consistent with loss of cabin pressure) which obscured the cockpit, and no motion was visible through the small patch of windshield that was clear.

National Transportation Safety Board investigators concluded that the plane suffered a loss of cabin pressure and that all on board died of hypoxia. A delay of only a few seconds in donning oxygen masks, coupled with cognitive and motor skill impairment, could have been enough to result in the pilots' incapacitation. The NTSB report showed that the plane had several instances of maintenance work related to cabin pressure in the months leading up to the accident. The NTSB was unable to determine whether they stemmed from a common problem – replacements and repairs were documented, but not the pilot discrepancy reports that prompted them or the frequency of such reports. The report gently chides Sunjet Aviation for the possibility that this would have made the problem harder to identify, track, and resolve; as well as the fact that in at least one instance the plane was flown with an unauthorized maintenance deferral for cabin pressure problems.

According to an Air Force timeline, a series of military planes provided an emergency escort to the stricken Lear, beginning with an F-16 from Eglin Air Force Base, about an hour and twenty minutes (9:33 EDT to 9:52 CDT – see NTSB report on the crash) after ground controllers lost contact. The plane continued flying until it ran out of fuel and crashed into a field near Mina, South Dakota, a town ten miles (16 km) west of Aberdeen, South Dakota after an uncontrolled descent. The five other people aboard the plane included Stewart's agents Robert Fraley and Van Ardan, and pilots Michael Kling and Stephanie Bellegarrigue, along with Bruce Borland, a highly-regarded golf architect with the Jack Nicklaus golf course design company."

IMPORTANT:
"National Transportation Safety Board investigators concluded that the plane suffered a loss of cabin pressure and that all on board died of hypoxia. A delay of only a few seconds in donning oxygen masks, coupled with cognitive and motor skill impairment, could have been enough to result in the pilots' incapacitation."

"Air Force timeline, a series of military planes provided an emergency escort to the stricken Lear, beginning with an F-16 from Eglin Air Force Base, about an hour and twenty minutes (9:33 EDT to 9:52 CDT – see NTSB report on the crash) after ground controllers lost contact. "

10. Operation Northwoods .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Non-Radar area key: link to image: http://i48.tinypic.com/2m27waw.jpg

Will respond to the rest later today. I believe the tapes of ATC and NORAD are real up to this point. I don't believe that many people could be coordinated enough to read their scripts that well for them not to be real. What my opinion and experience is telling me is it was a Payne Stewart / Operation Northwoods new type of incident and the planes were being controlled on the ground (look at the reaper etc we have now and in the 60's had the technology to fly drones") I also do not believe the few phones calls made by passengers and radio transmissions TO ATC. That part could have been anyone calling in or transmitting. Thanks for the great videos. Your opinions on things are pretty lined up with mine. Not sure what your background is but something tells me it's like mine...
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Post: #22
RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airma...1-107a.pdf

link to image: http://i49.tinypic.com/35dasyt.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ohZy21UjQ

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...cene-1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...ground.jpg

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2000/AAB0001.pdf

http://www.thecrashdetectives.com/upload...1_webv.pdf

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/fullt...B0001.html
"The accident site was located at 45 degrees, 25 minutes north latitude and 98 degrees, 45 minutes west longitude and was characterized by a crater that measured 42 feet, 4 inches long (oriented east to west) by 21 feet, 7 inches wide (oriented north to south). The crater measured 8 feet, 6 inches at its deepest point, which was approximately 7 feet south of the crater's northern wall. The local terrain was relatively flat. A marsh was located approximately 80 feet due east of the crater.

The main airframe wreckage was located in or near the impact crater. The majority of the rest of the wreckage was found within an approximately 75-foot radius. Additional wreckage was recovered up to 150 feet away. Almost all of the wreckage found outside of the crater was located east of the crater.

A debris field of smaller wreckage, including instrument panel components, the flight manual, seat cushions, life vests, and personal effects, extended outward from the impact crater in a north-northeasterly direction toward the marsh. The debris field formed a conical shape of approximately 35 degrees."



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94839&page=1
"Hall noted that Payne’s Learjet 35 hit the ground at near supersonic speed and at an extremely steep angle, leaving nearly none of the plane’s components intact. The board also could not determine whether an emergency oxygen bottle had been as fully charged as it should have been or whether the pilots had lost their capability to perform before or after donning oxygen masks."

Pilot Declares Emergency Because Of Extreme Hypoxia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg

Altitude chamber guy passed out quick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrGfElyfVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMTo_nWxZM
http://www.tailstrike.com/070494.htm
(Sounds of hammer blows striking pilots.)
AP: Ow!
JT: God!
JT: Oh, ah, shit.
DS: God almighty!
AP: Ow!
JT: What the f*#k are you doing?
DS: God, (groan), (groan), God almighty! God, God, God....
JT: Get him, get him, get him
DS: He's going to kill us.
JT: Get him!
DS: Get up, get him!
AP: I can't, God!
UV: STOP! (UNIN) Hold his goddamn...
AC: Sit down, sit down, get back in your seat, this is a real gun, I'll kill ya.
JT: Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle...
JT: Get him, get him, get him!
AC: I'm gonna kill you!
AC: Hey, hey! I'll kill ya!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
DS: Get him, get him, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
DS: Yeah, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT: Get him, get him, get him, Andy, I got the airplane!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT: Get him, Andy, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
(struggling in background)
(overseed warning -- series of clicks in background)
JT to Center: Center, Center, emergency! Center, emergency!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Center listen to me! Express 705, I've been wounded, we've had an attempted takeover on board the airplane, give me a vector please, back to Memphis at this time, hurry!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Zero nine five, zero nine five, direct Memphis, get an ambulance and uh, alert the uh, airport facility!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Hey Memphis, you still with me?
(struggling in background)
JT: (UNIN)
JT to Center: (UNIN) (shouting) Listen, hey Center!
(struggling in background)
JT to Center: Center, give me a heading to Memphis!
(struggling in background)
JT to Center: Zero nine zero, roger this is an emergency (UNIN)!
(overspeed warning -- series of clicks in background)
(struggling in background)
UV from rear: Let go of it! (sounds of struggle) Let go of the spear!
JT to Center: One zero, thousand, okay, keep me advised, where is Memphis?
(struggling in background)
JT: Okay, say my direction to Memphis.
JT: Look, just keep talking to me, okay?
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Post: #23
RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airma...1-107a.pdf

link to image: http://i49.tinypic.com/35dasyt.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ohZy21UjQ

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...cene-1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...ground.jpg

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2000/AAB0001.pdf

http://www.thecrashdetectives.com/upload...1_webv.pdf

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/fullt...B0001.html
"The accident site was located at 45 degrees, 25 minutes north latitude and 98 degrees, 45 minutes west longitude and was characterized by a crater that measured 42 feet, 4 inches long (oriented east to west) by 21 feet, 7 inches wide (oriented north to south). The crater measured 8 feet, 6 inches at its deepest point, which was approximately 7 feet south of the crater's northern wall. The local terrain was relatively flat. A marsh was located approximately 80 feet due east of the crater.

The main airframe wreckage was located in or near the impact crater. The majority of the rest of the wreckage was found within an approximately 75-foot radius. Additional wreckage was recovered up to 150 feet away. Almost all of the wreckage found outside of the crater was located east of the crater.

A debris field of smaller wreckage, including instrument panel components, the flight manual, seat cushions, life vests, and personal effects, extended outward from the impact crater in a north-northeasterly direction toward the marsh. The debris field formed a conical shape of approximately 35 degrees."



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94839&page=1
"Hall noted that Payne’s Learjet 35 hit the ground at near supersonic speed and at an extremely steep angle, leaving nearly none of the plane’s components intact. The board also could not determine whether an emergency oxygen bottle had been as fully charged as it should have been or whether the pilots had lost their capability to perform before or after donning oxygen masks."

Pilot Declares Emergency Because Of Extreme Hypoxia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg

Altitude chamber guy passed out quick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrGfElyfVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMTo_nWxZM
http://www.tailstrike.com/070494.htm
(Sounds of hammer blows striking pilots.)
AP: Ow!
JT: God!
JT: Oh, ah, shit.
DS: God almighty!
AP: Ow!
JT: What the f*#k are you doing?
DS: God, (groan), (groan), God almighty! God, God, God....
JT: Get him, get him, get him
DS: He's going to kill us.
JT: Get him!
DS: Get up, get him!
AP: I can't, God!
UV: STOP! (UNIN) Hold his goddamn...
AC: Sit down, sit down, get back in your seat, this is a real gun, I'll kill ya.
JT: Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle...
JT: Get him, get him, get him!
AC: I'm gonna kill you!
AC: Hey, hey! I'll kill ya!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
DS: Get him, get him, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
DS: Yeah, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT: Get him, get him, get him, Andy, I got the airplane!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT: Get him, Andy, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
(struggling in background)
(overseed warning -- series of clicks in background)
JT to Center: Center, Center, emergency! Center, emergency!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Center listen to me! Express 705, I've been wounded, we've had an attempted takeover on board the airplane, give me a vector please, back to Memphis at this time, hurry!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Zero nine five, zero nine five, direct Memphis, get an ambulance and uh, alert the uh, airport facility!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Hey Memphis, you still with me?
(struggling in background)
JT: (UNIN)
JT to Center: (UNIN) (shouting) Listen, hey Center!
(struggling in background)
JT to Center: Center, give me a heading to Memphis!
(struggling in background)
JT to Center: Zero nine zero, roger this is an emergency (UNIN)!
(overspeed warning -- series of clicks in background)
(struggling in background)
UV from rear: Let go of it! (sounds of struggle) Let go of the spear!
JT to Center: One zero, thousand, okay, keep me advised, where is Memphis?
(struggling in background)
JT: Okay, say my direction to Memphis.
JT: Look, just keep talking to me, okay?
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RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
http://www.faa.gov/pilots/training/airma...1-107a.pdf

http://i49.tinypic.com/35dasyt.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ohZy21UjQ

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...cene-1.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...ground.jpg

http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/reports/2000/AAB0001.pdf

http://www.thecrashdetectives.com/upload...1_webv.pdf

http://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/fullt...B0001.html
"The accident site was located at 45 degrees, 25 minutes north latitude and 98 degrees, 45 minutes west longitude and was characterized by a crater that measured 42 feet, 4 inches long (oriented east to west) by 21 feet, 7 inches wide (oriented north to south). The crater measured 8 feet, 6 inches at its deepest point, which was approximately 7 feet south of the crater's northern wall. The local terrain was relatively flat. A marsh was located approximately 80 feet due east of the crater.

The main airframe wreckage was located in or near the impact crater. The majority of the rest of the wreckage was found within an approximately 75-foot radius. Additional wreckage was recovered up to 150 feet away. Almost all of the wreckage found outside of the crater was located east of the crater.

A debris field of smaller wreckage, including instrument panel components, the flight manual, seat cushions, life vests, and personal effects, extended outward from the impact crater in a north-northeasterly direction toward the marsh. The debris field formed a conical shape of approximately 35 degrees."



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=94839&page=1
"Hall noted that Payne’s Learjet 35 hit the ground at near supersonic speed and at an extremely steep angle, leaving nearly none of the plane’s components intact. The board also could not determine whether an emergency oxygen bottle had been as fully charged as it should have been or whether the pilots had lost their capability to perform before or after donning oxygen masks."

Pilot Declares Emergency Because Of Extreme Hypoxia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IqWal_EmBg

Altitude chamber guy passed out quick
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSrGfElyfVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvMTo_nWxZM
http://www.tailstrike.com/070494.htm
(Sounds of hammer blows striking pilots.)
AP: Ow!
JT: God!
JT: Oh, ah, shit.
DS: God almighty!
AP: Ow!
JT: What the f*#k are you doing?
DS: God, (groan), (groan), God almighty! God, God, God....
JT: Get him, get him, get him
DS: He's going to kill us.
JT: Get him!
DS: Get up, get him!
AP: I can't, God!
UV: STOP! (UNIN) Hold his goddamn...
AC: Sit down, sit down, get back in your seat, this is a real gun, I'll kill ya.
JT: Get him, get him, get him, get him, get him, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle...
JT: Get him, get him, get him!
AC: I'm gonna kill you!
AC: Hey, hey! I'll kill ya!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
DS: Get him, get him, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
DS: Yeah, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT: Get him, get him, get him, Andy, I got the airplane!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT: Get him, Andy, get him!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
(struggling in background)
(overseed warning -- series of clicks in background)
JT to Center: Center, Center, emergency! Center, emergency!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Center listen to me! Express 705, I've been wounded, we've had an attempted takeover on board the airplane, give me a vector please, back to Memphis at this time, hurry!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Zero nine five, zero nine five, direct Memphis, get an ambulance and uh, alert the uh, airport facility!
AW: bank angle, bank angle
JT to Center: Hey Memphis, you still with me?
(struggling in background)
JT: (UNIN)
JT to Center: (UNIN) (shouting) Listen, hey Center!
(struggling in background)
JT to Center: Center, give me a heading to Memphis!
(struggling in background)
JT to Center: Zero nine zero, roger this is an emergency (UNIN)!
(overspeed warning -- series of clicks in background)
(struggling in background)
UV from rear: Let go of it! (sounds of struggle) Let go of the spear!
JT to Center: One zero, thousand, okay, keep me advised, where is Memphis?
(struggling in background)
JT: Okay, say my direction to Memphis.
JT: Look, just keep talking to me, okay?
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Post: #25
RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
Count the numbers there are 9's 11's 13's throughout this on the time stamps...
Also on the airline flight numbers....
There are also numbers that can be evenly divided by 11....
Someone has a real number hangup, Our leaders are not dealing with a full deck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqRCdfUUrPc
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Anyway to remove multiple repeated posts?
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RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-09-2012 10:39 PM)
Anyway to remove multiple repeated posts?

Kind of like how do you cure stupidity?
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Post: #28
RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
George Bush Sr. New World Order Live Speech Sept 11 1991
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byxeOG_pZ1o
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RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
Ghenghy  Wrote: (05-09-2012 10:43 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-09-2012 10:39 PM)
Anyway to remove multiple repeated posts?

Kind of like how do you cure stupidity?

Yes, so with your experience in that area could you advise me?
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RE: Listen To 9/11 As It Unfolded - FAA NORAD Tapes
Ghenghy  Wrote: (05-09-2012 10:43 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-09-2012 10:39 PM)
Anyway to remove multiple repeated posts?

Kind of like how do you cure stupidity?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J0_ZrYTfig
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