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Obamacare Bill suggests data chip implants
t0mmy
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Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable microchip.

There's a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won't like.

The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.

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t0mmy
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t0mmy
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RE:Obamacare Bill suggests data chip implants
pdf is 1018 pages @ link provided, above:

111TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. R. ll
To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce
the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes.

The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"
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entropy
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entropy  Wrote: (03-22-2010 11:39 PM)
You dont have to be chipped. That is fear-mongering. That section covered operation of a database for implantable devices made by companies, basically it holds them accountable if said devices patented cause any problems. They don't have to be chips either. Forms of birthcontrol, pacemakers, anything like that.
As far as the bill goes it is a sellout to the insurance companies so in that aspect I was against it. Real health reform will not come without a public option to compete with private insurance.

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t0mmy
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I have the Bill in front of me,,,,,,,,reading it- in fact, it really does say this.............download the pdf file, scroll to 1004 page,

.........IT IS THERE!
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03-22-2010 07:35 PM

 



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Maybe obama really is the antichrist.

He is most PRO ABORTION president in history.
And is against giving care to children who survive an abortion attempt.


The bible says of the ac... Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers,

obama's dad was a muslim..as was his witchdoctor grand daddy.
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03-22-2010 07:36 PM

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Yup, it is there...toward the end of the bill. Nice.

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03-22-2010 07:40 PM

 



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03-23-2010 12:06 AM

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Page 1002 of the bill has the term implantable as a class II device
Page 1004 explains what the data will be used for.

Oh Heck

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03-23-2010 01:07 AM

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RE:Obamacare Bill suggests data chip implants
t0mmy  Wrote: (03-22-2010 07:19 PM)
Coverage under Obamacare will require an implantable microchip.

There's a pretty starling thing in the bill that 95% of Americans won't like.

The Obama Health care bill under Class II (Paragraph 1, Section B) specifically includes ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable." Then on page 1004 it describes what the term "data" means in paragraph 1, section B:

14 ‘‘(B) In this paragraph, the term ‘data’ refers to in15
formation respecting a device described in paragraph (1),
16 including claims data, patient survey data, standardized
17 analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of
18 data from disparate data environments, electronic health
19 records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the
20 Secretary"

What exactly is a class II device that is implantable? Lets see...

Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is a "implantable radiofrequency
transponder system for patient identification and health information." The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as "claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary."

This sort of device would be implanted in the majority of people who opt to become covered by the public health care option. With the reform of the private insurance companies, who charge outrageous rates, many people will switch their coverage to a more affordable insurance plan. This means the number of people who choose the public option will increase. This also means the number of people chipped will be plentiful as well. The adults who choose to have a chip implanted are the lucky (yes, lucky) ones in this case. Children who are "born in the United States who at the time of birth is not otherwise covered under acceptable coverage" will be qualified and placed into the CHIP or Children's Health Insurance Program (what a convenient name). With a name like CHIP it would seem consistent to have the chip implanted into a child. Children conceived by parents who are already covered under the public option will more than likely be implanted with a chip by the consent of the parent. Eventually everyone will be implanted with a chip. And with the price and coverage of the public option being so competitive with the private companies, the private company may not survive.

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03-23-2010 01:12 AM

 



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RE:Obamacare Bill suggests data chip implants
Is this in the recently passed bill, H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?
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03-23-2010 01:16 AM

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I though it was in the original bill but was taken out?
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Anonymous Coward  Wrote: (03-23-2010 01:12 AM)
Is this in the recently passed bill, H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

No, it is not. OP is citing the one with the public option. That one is not the one that passed.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/...as.txt.pdf

I just checked. This is the right bill and it does not contain the supposed info.
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03-23-2010 02:32 AM

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RE:Obamacare Bill suggests data chip implants
ArchAngel  Wrote: (03-23-2010 02:25 AM)
Anonymous Coward  Wrote: (03-23-2010 01:12 AM)
Is this in the recently passed bill, H.R. 3590, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act?

No, it is not. OP is citing the one with the public option. That one is not the one that passed.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/...as.txt.pdf

I just checked. This is the right bill and it does not contain the supposed info.

OK this answers my question above, thanks ...

OP is either on fear mongering duty or a victim of thereof ...
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03-23-2010 10:47 AM

 



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The OP is

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