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The Titanic conspiracy
Galaxy r.i.p.
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The Titanic conspiracy
This is only one part of a larger picture. For more information, please read The Titanic Conspiracy and The James Cameron Conspiracy.

There are some who believe that the Titanic tragedy was simply a conspiracy designed to pull off one of the largest acts of insurance fraud ever committed. The sister ship of the Titanic by the name of the Olympia had sustained damage during one of its voyages and it was said that the ship was rendered completely useless. Many experts see evidence that supports this theory due to some of the inconsistencies in the Titanic sinking story.

Small differences in the two ships have been analyzed by experts suggesting that after the Olympic had been damaged, that it was designed to look like the Titanic. Many accounts of this type of marine insurance fraud has been documented throughout the course of time. The idea of swapping ships in order to collect insurance is not a new idea, and if the story is true, this would be the largest case of marine insurance fraud ever successfully pulled off.
Investigating The Titanic Conspiracy Theory

There are many reasons to consider the possibility that the Titanic was replaced by her Sister the Olympic. Probably the most common inconsistency in the story of the sinking of the Titanic is the differing paint jobs between the two ships. The Olympic’s hull was painted white for more media friendly pictures, while her sister, the Titanic was the more commonly used black.

The wheelhouse of the Olympic was also constructed in a bow fronted fashion. However, a photograph taken from the top of the huge steel gantry specially constructed by Harland & Wolff to enable them to build the vessels shows this not necessarily to be the case. This photograph, taken immediately after the ship was launched, appears to show a straight fronted wheelhouse, exactly as it appeared on earlier drawings of the ship.

Damage to the Olympic occurred when it was inadvertently rammed by a British naval vessel by the name HMS Hawke. Both ships received major damage from the incident and it left the Olympic with a large hole in the hull and her main starboard engine out of commission. With the help of a few tugboats, the Olympic was taken back to Southhampton to assess the damage. Eyewitness reports suggest that the route of the Hawke and the Olympic intersecting may not have been an accident at all.

When White Star brought the event to court in order to claim damages for the dismembered Olympic, it was ruled that the collision was entirely the fault of the Olympic. Unable to collect money for her repairs, White Star was left with a severely damaged ship which was losing the company money by being unable to collect fares.

Damage reports had found that the outer covering of one of the propellers had been severely damaged, the crankshaft had been damaged, and the bearing within the propeller had also been bent. The central turbine engine was unusable and the impact of the Hawke’s iron ram had caused vast internal damage to the Olympic. The Titanic and Olympic had cost a fortune to build, and would require years of operation before the company would see any profit. It was absolutely necessary to get the Olympic up and running.

Harland & Wolff had no spare engine crankshaft, propeller, or propeller shaft on hand to replace those damaged items on Olympic , except ones awaiting fitment to her sister vessel, Titanic. Essentially, the Olympic was repaired with parts from the unfinished Titanic, some of which can still be seen. One of the propellers still bears the 01 from the Titanic, which was model 401. It should also be noted that the bent bearing, which was designed to last a lifetime was never commissioned to be replaced. This would have resulted in a shaky voyage, which was noted by a passenger and survivor by the name of Lawrence Beesley.

Both the Titanic and Olympic were not initially designed to have bulkheads installed, but one was put into the Olympic to repair the damage to the hull. When Dr. Robert Ballard found the wreckage of the Titanic, he found a bulkhead which was not mentioned on any of the initial plans.

A Harland & Wolff photograph of Olympic , taken when the vessel was in the Thompson Graving Dock in 1911, clearly shows her to have had a vertical joint in her hull plating immediately forward of the port side anchor hawse pipe. Photographs of Titanic , while still on the stocks and while fitting out in 1911, show that there was no similar joint in her hull plating just ahead of her port side anchor. However, In a picture of Olympic , taken during her 1912/13 refit following the Titanic disaster, shows this vessel not to have the tell-tale plating joint; proving quite conclusively that the hull pictured is that of Titanic although the name Olympic is clearly visible on both sides of the bow.

Quite possibly the most conclusive evidence that Titanic conspiracy theorists believe proves the theory is the tonnage of the ships. Many additions were made to the Titanic while attempting to model the Olympic after her. The Olympic was recorded as having a tonnage of around 45,000, while the Titanic weighed in at about 46,000. Plainly put, the addition of 1,000 lbs to the Titanic still resulted in the Titanic weighing 46,000, which doesn’t make a lot of sense. It is very plausible that the 1,000 pounds of tonnage was added to the Olympic in order to meet the weight of the Titanic.

Some other aspects support this theory such as some of the lifeboats having the name of the Olympic engraved into their gunwales and a carbon copy of a photograph of the Olympic stateroom emerging during the filming of the 1997 Titanic movie taken by a submersible.

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beermug RE: The Titanic conspiracy
So...the Jesuits did it, to kill three guys who were blocking the creation of the Federal Reserve? That's how I remember it being broken down in a youtube vid...
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RE: The Titanic conspiracy
I red about this story long ago, but i stumbled on that story again.
I thought it was a good idea to repost it for the newbees, and to bring some conspiracy on LOP.

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RE: The Titanic conspiracy
Shakey1  Wrote: (03-27-2012 12:50 PM)
So...the Jesuits did it, to kill three guys who were blocking the creation of the Federal Reserve? That's how I remember it being broken down in a youtube vid...

Actually, the people that control the Jesuits did it... The international bankers. But I'll agree with the reason. Had to create the Fed Reserve to get control of the money supply.

On a smaller level it might have been done for insurance reasons, like 9/11.
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RE: The Titanic conspiracy
Galaxy  Wrote: (03-27-2012 12:39 PM)
This is only one part of a larger picture. For more information, please read The Titanic Conspiracy and The James Cameron Conspiracy.

What i've always found interesting about Camerons film Titanic was the "delay" in it's release

After many delays, it was finally released on December 19th 1997

1,362 days after it's release, the South Tower was the first tower to be struck

It's height?


Useless information, but when pondered in conjunction with a doobie ... Damned
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RE: The Titanic conspiracy
I posted this before, and it didn't get any discussion.

Glad you could bring it to attention!!



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devil RE: The Titanic conspiracy
Pi  Wrote: (03-27-2012 03:47 PM)
Useless information, but when pondered in conjunction with a doobie ... Damned

Amount of floors in WTC was 110

Go back 110 days from when Titanic was released and you come to the day Diana died

Carl Sagan, born November 9th 1934 (9/11) died December 20th 1996

December 20th 1996 (Sagan Death) - 31st August 1997 (Diana Death) = 254 days (Sept 11th is Day 254 of the year)

31st August 1997 (Diana Death) - 19th December 1997 (Titanic Release) = 110 days (Floors in WTC)

19th December 1997 (Titanic Release) - 11th September 2001 (9/11 Attacks) = 1,362 days (Height of First Tower Hit)

All coincidence of course....

Damn Doobies...

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RE: The Titanic conspiracy

every "incident" serves multiple purposes... insurance, murder, pushing of legislation, control... with a touch of zealot in the wheelhouse

if u buy this line of logic... here's another one for the noobs.... apply this principle to the salem witch hysteria.... reference material to research:

climate readings from that time (specifically the season prior to hysteria)
John Todd material (taken with a grain of sand)
Collins Cove, Salem Massachusetts
Babylonian Mystery School Teachings

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RE: The Titanic conspiracy
People have been conditioned to be perfectly
gullible, trusting little puppy-dogs.

When the cruise liner hit the rocks in Italy
my first thoughts were insurance fraud! A weak
and dying economy in southern Europe is not the
best time to own and operate luxury cruise liners!

Every single response to my musings was negative and

The commercial real estate market is failing now.

I wonder if that situation might make the odds
of another Titanic-Event happening again go up?
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devil RE: The Titanic conspiracy
The Evil AC  Wrote: (03-27-2012 03:57 PM)
Carl Sagan (9/11)

AA  Wrote: (03-27-2012 03:57 PM)
Psychic Sagan

Carl Sagan predicted the terrorist attacks on the WTC in NYC. I saw it. I was watching a rerun of the old Cosmos TV show, as I relaxed after a long day of work and school last night. Dr. Sagan was talking about intelligent life going extinct on planets due to nuclear war. There were sound clips playing of tragic, world-changing events. Things such as the Kennedy assasination, and wars... Then, right near the end, a voice says, "The World Trade Center, Terrorism... Terrorism." I was freaked. I sat bolt upright on the couch. Firstly, Carl Sagan died before September 11, 2001. Secondly, Cosmos was filmed around 20 years ago! As a matter of fact, that's around the time the WTC was completed.

posted by Tonewah at 4:44 PM

MrEvolution said...

The real quote is much more prophetic. I turned on that episode as I was going to bed and was almost asleep when the strange garbled transmission came through. I thought maybe I was dreaming.

I rewound it a few times and sure enough I heard, "two aircraft hit the towers of the world trade center (garbled) terrorists(ism)" The buildings were designed to withstand a hit from a 707 so they knew it was a possibility, but the thing that gives me the creeps is it says 'two planes.' I've been searching the web thinking maybe they added that later (why would they?) and I haven't found a peep until you.

What episode of cosmos is this in i wonder?

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