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Trump May Pardon US Soldiers Accused Or Convicted Of War Crimes – NYT's
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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 04:51 PM)
Trump's Pardon of a Soldier is an "Endorsement of a Murder"

The ACLU condemned Trump for pardoning a soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi prisoner.



"In 2009, Army Ranger Michael Behenna was convicted of unpremeditated murder by a military court. Behenna was ordered to transport prisoner Ali Mansur back to his village but, instead, he drove Mansur to a secluded location, stripped him naked for an unauthorized interrogation, and then shot him to death.

Behenna claimed he acted in self-defense but according to court documents he told fellow soldiers "he would do it again, and he did not feel bad about it because he just lost two guys." And, on Monday, Donald Trump pardoned him. Behenna's 25 year sentence had already been reduced to 15 years, and, in 2014, he was released on parole. In a statement, Sarah Huckabee Sanders called Behenna "entirely deserving of this Grant of Executive Clemency."

The director of the American Civil Liberties Union's National Security Project called the pardon "a presidential endorsement of a murder that violated the military’s own code of justice. Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, and top military leaders should prevent war crimes, not endorse or excuse them."

During his time in office, Trump's selection for presidential pardons has been explicitly political. This includes Dinesh D'Souza, the hyper-partisan conservative activist who was convicted after he knowingly made illegal campaign contributions in 2012. Then there's the Hammonds, ranchers whose arson conviction inspired the month-long, armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. And Trump's first pardon as president is probably the most egregious, granting clemency to former sheriff Joe Arpaio after he defied a federal judges orders. Arpaio openly bragged about forcing suspected undocumented immigrants into open-air "concentration camps" and the conditions in his jails were so abhorrent that a staggering number of prisoners killed themselves there. There's a good chance Trump selected D'Souza and Arpaio himself since they're both very vocal cheerleaders of his."

https://www.gq.com/story/trumps-pardon

Don't know about the Hammonds. They might be innocent and just used as involuntarily participants in a psyop. But Cliven Bundy is played by Tboone Pickens. Finicum is played by Ed Harris. The woman arrested is Patty Hearst. And the Oregonian is a Hearst newspaper deeply involved in this mind fk of the people.
wellaware1.com exposed them in a video that has been taken down then taken down again. Someone doesn't want that video on the net.
wellaware1 is constantly being taken down. He is in the process of replacing many of those videos recently taken down by Vimeo. He used Vimio after YouTube destroyed his work five times. But if the video isn't there try later as he restores his site. Be sure to catch who sheriff Arpio really is.
I'm just showing you that your examples suck.
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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:27 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:00 PM)
They are just trained seals.

Trump just loves his "Seals" no matter what they do.
This is an ongoing military prosecution ...will Trump pardon these four?
By the American Green Baret who was killed being a minority may just work in their favor knowing Trump.



Attorney: SEAL to accept plea deal in Green Beret's death
Source: AP

NORFOLK, Va. — A U.S. Navy SEAL is expected to formally accept a plea deal on Thursday for his role in the 2017 strangulation death of a U.S. Army Green Beret in Africa.

Navy SEAL Adam Matthews is one for four U.S. service members charged with murder and related counts in the death of Army Staff Sergeant Logan Melgar, a Texas native.

The five men were stationed in the African country of Mali. Charging documents describe a situation in which some of the nation's most elite military personnel — including two members of the famed SEAL Team Six — broke into Melgar's bedroom while he was sleeping, bound him with duct tape and put him into a choke hold.

A special court martial hearing for Matthews is scheduled for Thursday at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia. It could offer new details about what happened that night. Publicly released charging documents have not revealed a specific motive.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/att...li=BBnb7Kz
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Also, as for all these atrocities committed by the soldiers who knows. The military mind controls the fk out of its members and instills extreme hatred for the enemy that has never before done anything to the usa soldiers who never before even heard of the enemy in most cases. I know that the USA soldiers are instilled with so much hate that some of them probably do commit atrocities. But I suspect that most if not all these pardons of murdering usa soldiers involve made up psyop bs murders.
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:27 PM)
Fu King  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:09 PM)
MK-ULTRA Super Soldiers

Mind Fuked and out of Control Period end of sentence

Except that Berghdahl guy.

Why not.
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The ghost of capn´crunch  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:47 PM)
it won´t be long before crimes comitted against u.s. citizens by soldiers will also be pardoned,

it is setting a precedent,

this is where it all leads to,

complete chaos,

no one will be safe...no one...

Like Putin's army in Chechnya, completely sanctioned atrocities. Scream1

That is what Trump is hoping for but there are many more moral and incorruptible police and military that hate his guts and see what a phony lying POS Trump is.

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He Man  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:46 PM)
The ghost of capn´crunch  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:47 PM)
it won´t be long before crimes comitted against u.s. citizens by soldiers will also be pardoned,

it is setting a precedent,

this is where it all leads to,

complete chaos,

no one will be safe...no one...

Like Putin's army in Chechnya, completely sanctions atrocities. Scream1

That is what Trump is hoping for but there are many more moral and incorruptible police and military that hate his guts and see what a phony lying POS Trump is.

Jhikpghf

Do you have a link for those statistics?
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:49 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:46 PM)
Like Putin's army in Chechnya, completely sanctions atrocities. Scream1

That is what Trump is hoping for but there are many more moral and incorruptible police and military that hate his guts and see what a phony lying POS Trump is.

Jhikpghf

Do you have a link for those statistics?

Trump's overall approval polling shows so many people do not trust him. That is going to extend to police and military as they are generally part of the voting/polling population.

In 2017 and again in 2018 Trump's military polling was down and Trump has not done anything to improve that from then on. If anything his reckless military posturing and war with Iran cheer leading and appointing the Walrus of War John Bolton head of NSA is only driving Trump's approval numbers with military, police and ICE officers lower and lower.

Support for Trump is fading among active-duty troops, new poll shows

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/penta...oll-shows/

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Fu King  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:42 PM)
Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 08:27 PM)
Except that Berghdahl guy.

Why not.

He was more of a douche than a super soldier.
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so check this out,

trump is goin to pardon a seal for playing a joke on a green beret,

that ended up in the death of the green beret,

you can not make this chitt up!

how dare you even try!

but that is what you get when you elect a sociopath into office,

no morals or ethics whatsoever....none, zilch, nada....

didn´t he say he admires lil kim?

the fat midget that murdered all of his immediate family so they could not get in the way of his powergrab?

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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:22 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:07 PM)
FIFY agree

I have been through the judicial system and understand it has been corrupted by less than honorable folk,fortunatly for me I got a great judge and jury...not guilty.

It's rare, but you probably got a judge who is not a Freemason. Most lawyers are, too. Our judicial system is corrupt through and through.
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Soeaking of War Crimes and Genocide:

Eisenhower's Death Camps - The last dirty secret of World War Two:

https://rense.com/general96/Eisenhower-death-camps.pdf
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 10:08 PM)
Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 07:22 PM)
I have been through the judicial system and understand it has been corrupted by less than honorable folk,fortunatly for me I got a great judge and jury...not guilty.

It's rare, but you probably got a judge who is not a Freemason. Most lawyers are, too. Our judicial system is corrupt through and through.
He was awesome,took no sh*t from prosecutors and constantly called then on bullshit,watching all the other procedures besides mine were highly entertaining.He was fair but if he gave you a break and you ended up in front of him again for stupid sh*t the hammer fell...had a real good experience with him during my adventure...still it took a year to finally go to trial.
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He Man  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:28 PM)
Trump is becoming more and more like Hitler every month. Pardoning war crimes and mass murderers of innocent civilians and for committing atrocities that go against all of the international treaties the US has signed onto, only signals that the next wave of war crimes and atrocities is also going to be pardoned. That allows the most depraved and demented criminals to believe they have full permission to rape, murder and torture whomever they want to and then get away with it.

This is what happens in despotic dictatorships and fascistic states. Nobody should want a military to be full of thugs that go on kill sprees and decide who is a target, and face no accountability for their in-humane actions.

5* and thank you so much for posting on how depraved Trump is becoming.

you ain’t see nutttttin yet freakO

wait until the red team has a reason to take off the kids gloves.

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Guess he should have taken out a dozen more ISIS if he is getting pardoned. Such a waste of a pardon for only killing one.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 10:11 PM)
Soeaking of War Crimes and Genocide:

Eisenhower's Death Camps - The last dirty secret of World War Two:

https://rense.com/general96/Eisenhower-death-camps.pdf

Thanks for posting that. Clearly the US civil war (both sides) and this case of WWII POW camps were horror shows. The difference for what it matters is this case of the Eisenhower POW camps was after the largest series of wars with the most trauma to civilian and military deaths in history. It was not general policy of the US military to have so much death and disease and war crimes. It was a symptom caused because of the total war concept that all sides adopted in WWI and WWII.

The Nazi's didn't care about the inhumanity of death camps and their concentration camps and forced labor slave labor to death policies were worse than what the US military had to deal with after Germany was defeated.

I am not making excuses, just pointing out the differences. My father was a Sargent at the end of the WWII and he was in both US and Russian prisoner of war camps run by the US government and the Russian Government right after the war.

Not as a prisoner but as an adjutant visiting the camps doing various duties.

He said the camps he saw were not like this article but that he believed the article to be reflective of reality.

In fact these camp's did get improved upon over time and the totality of the reconstructive post war effort did not lead to mass killing or starvation as a military policy. Which is clearly what the Germans would have done if they won the war.

The Russians did do some mass killings of officers and troops after the war and based on how the nazi's had treated the Russians it was sort of expected. Not that that makes it right.

The needless starvation, disease and deaths of so many German troops was a reality at some times and in some places in US POW camps and it could have been greatly improved upon I expect, if the top brass had the interest in prioritizing humanity and the geneva conventions.

All great wars in history have situations like this and it is why we need international agreements on war crimes and world courts and the UN and the geneva conventions.

Without them this would be a never ending situation like the treatment of prisoners in the napoleonic wars and the slavery of prisoners post war in greek and roman times.

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