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CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
tamarack
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Post: #31
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
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Anyone ever stop to think that urban heat islands and highways might
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That alone would jack temps 1C.
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Lord DunLOP
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Post: #32
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:17 AM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-17-2019 11:53 PM)
[Image: uB19byb.png]

The only proof of Global Warming anybody needs is PROOF of Global Warming itself.

Study the graph because there you have it. It makes all your inane sidebar silliness moot.

You have chosen the most tampered with temperature record, NASA's and you have chosen to end the record at the peak of the 2016 El Nino. So what happened after 2016? Even in Gistemp temperatures WENT DOWN:

[Image: 213551_5_.png]

As you can see in Figure 1 above, there has been rapid cooling from that El Niño-induced peak in 2016, and the global temperature is now approaching what it was before the event. Had there not been an El Niño event in 2015 and 2016, creating a spike in global temperature, it is likely Schmidt wouldn’t get a “confirming” answer for a 15-year temperature trend. As you can see in the figure above on Panel B, the peak occurred in early 2016, and the data trend before that was essentially flat.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles...rming.html

Here is the BEST temperature record, the satellite record of University of Huntsville:

[Image: UAH_LT_1979_thru_May_2019_v6-550x317.jpg]

The temperature is only .32 of a degree warmer than average, swallowed up in the margin of error so there is no real evidence for ANY global warming.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2019/06/uah-...-32-deg-c/


Stop trying to insult my intelligence with your stupid graphs, Global Warming did not start in 1979 and the fluidity of the atmosphere makes for unreliable data when comes measuring heat in atmosphere. And that's besides the point that both of the graphs you present disagree with your conjecture of no global warming.

Go back to 1900, note the difference, pure and simple the Earth is warming, end of story.

It's the Environment, stupid.
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tamarack
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06-18-2019 12:57 AM

 



Post: #33
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:52 AM)
Stop trying to insult my intelligence with your stupid graphs, Global Warming did not start in 1979 and the fluidity of the atmosphere makes for unreliable data when comes measuring heat in atmosphere. And that's besides the point that both of the graphs you present disagree with your conjecture of no global warming.

Go back to 1900, note the difference, pure and simple the Earth is warming, end of story.

Use the Ventusky site to alleviate your global warming anxiety.
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=71;-54;2&l=temperature-2m
As you know the Arctic is in 24 hour daylight at solstice while the Antarctic is
in 24 hour night.

The Arctic is warm now, but the Antarctic is registering anywhere from -40 to -90F

Those temps wouldn't be possible in a warming climate.
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Lord DunLOP
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Post: #34
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
tamarack  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:57 AM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:52 AM)
Stop trying to insult my intelligence with your stupid graphs, Global Warming did not start in 1979 and the fluidity of the atmosphere makes for unreliable data when comes measuring heat in atmosphere. And that's besides the point that both of the graphs you present disagree with your conjecture of no global warming.

Go back to 1900, note the difference, pure and simple the Earth is warming, end of story.

Use the Ventusky site to alleviate your global warming anxiety.
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=71;-54;2&l=temperature-2m
As you know the Arctic is in 24 hour daylight at solstice while the Antarctic is
in 24 hour night.

The Arctic is warm now, but the Antarctic is registering anywhere from -40 to -90F

Those temps wouldn't be possible in a warming climate.

Well that's odd because the climate is warming, and that's not me that is climate scientist the world over relaying that factoid. From my keyboard to your eyes, only to bounce off your brain. Oh well?

It's the Environment, stupid.
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Oblivion.
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I Stink Therefore I Am.

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tamarack
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06-18-2019 01:12 AM

 



Post: #35
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:08 AM)
tamarack  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:57 AM)
Use the Ventusky site to alleviate your global warming anxiety.
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=71;-54;2&l=temperature-2m
As you know the Arctic is in 24 hour daylight at solstice while the Antarctic is
in 24 hour night.

The Arctic is warm now, but the Antarctic is registering anywhere from -40 to -90F

Those temps wouldn't be possible in a warming climate.

Well that's odd because the climate is warming, and that's not me that is climate scientist the world over relaying that factoid. From my keyboard to your eyes, only to bounce off your brain. Oh well?

All you have to do is look at the Ventusky site and you can easily see that the
world is actually very cool for this time of year.

Most of the Southern hemisphere is water, so look at the continents and tell me they
don't look quite cool.

But, by all means continue to believe your trusted authorities.
They never lie.

They actually never do lie!

chuckle
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Natura Naturans
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06-18-2019 01:13 AM

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Post: #36
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:52 AM)
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (06-18-2019 12:17 AM)
You have chosen the most tampered with temperature record, NASA's and you have chosen to end the record at the peak of the 2016 El Nino. So what happened after 2016? Even in Gistemp temperatures WENT DOWN:

[Image: 213551_5_.png]

As you can see in Figure 1 above, there has been rapid cooling from that El Niño-induced peak in 2016, and the global temperature is now approaching what it was before the event. Had there not been an El Niño event in 2015 and 2016, creating a spike in global temperature, it is likely Schmidt wouldn’t get a “confirming” answer for a 15-year temperature trend. As you can see in the figure above on Panel B, the peak occurred in early 2016, and the data trend before that was essentially flat.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles...rming.html

Here is the BEST temperature record, the satellite record of University of Huntsville:

[Image: UAH_LT_1979_thru_May_2019_v6-550x317.jpg]

The temperature is only .32 of a degree warmer than average, swallowed up in the margin of error so there is no real evidence for ANY global warming.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2019/06/uah-...-32-deg-c/


Stop trying to insult my intelligence with your stupid graphs, Global Warming did not start in 1979 and the fluidity of the atmosphere makes for unreliable data when comes measuring heat in atmosphere. And that's besides the point that both of the graphs you present disagree with your conjecture of no global warming.

Go back to 1900, note the difference, pure and simple the Earth is warming, end of story.

Even global warming pushers agree that the world warmed as much from 1900 until 1970 as thereafter. The problem with that is global warming zealots can't explain why it warmed the first part of the twentieth century when CO2 had not increased. If the world warmed without an increase in CO2 the first part of the twentieth century what makes you think CO2 warmed it the SECOND half of the century?
A better explanation is simple natural variability, the recovery of the Earth from the Little Ice Age that ended in the 1850's.

Oh, and the reason the UH chart starts in 1979 is because that is when the first satellites were launched that the data is derived from.

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.” --Baruch Spinoza
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Lord DunLOP
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Post: #37
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
tamarack  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:12 AM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:08 AM)
Well that's odd because the climate is warming, and that's not me that is climate scientist the world over relaying that factoid. From my keyboard to your eyes, only to bounce off your brain. Oh well?

All you have to do is look at the Ventusky site and you can easily see that the
world is actually very cool for this time of year.

Most of the Southern hemisphere is water, so look at the continents and tell me they
don't look quite cool.

But, by all means continue to believe your trusted authorities.
They never lie.

They actually never do lie!

chuckle

Yeah right, thousands of climate scientist are all lying in unison, that's just moronic.

It's the Environment, stupid.
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The finish-line of the Rat Race lays in
Oblivion.
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I Stink Therefore I Am.

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Natura Naturans
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06-18-2019 01:23 AM

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Post: #38
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
People wrongly assume temperatures have been climbing going back centuries. In fact temperatures now are 3 degrees colder than the early part of the Holocene interglacial we are in. Check this chart out of the 12,000 years of our present interglacial to see that the Holocene optimum, the Minoan, the Roman, AND the medieval warm periods were substantially warmer, ALL AT TIMES WHEN THE CO2 LEVEL WAS MUCH LOWER THAN TODAY:

[Image: screen-shot-2015-06-06-at-12-34-16.png?w...;amp;h=575]

So LD, why were the earlier periods so warm if CO2 had nothing to do with it? And why after CO2 has skyrocketed to 400ppm is the temperature the last three years DECLINING?

https://edmhdotme.wordpress.com/2015/06/...warming-2/

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.” --Baruch Spinoza
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Natura Naturans
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06-18-2019 01:35 AM

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Post: #39
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:16 AM)
tamarack  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:12 AM)
All you have to do is look at the Ventusky site and you can easily see that the
world is actually very cool for this time of year.

Most of the Southern hemisphere is water, so look at the continents and tell me they
don't look quite cool.

But, by all means continue to believe your trusted authorities.
They never lie.

They actually never do lie!

chuckle

Yeah right, thousands of climate scientist are all lying in unison, that's just moronic.

A moron is someone who listens to the propaganda and doesn't research issues for himself.

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.” --Baruch Spinoza
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Lord DunLOP
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06-18-2019 01:47 AM

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All your inane sidebar chicanery has nothing to do with this day and age. This day and age humans are dumping into the atmosphere nearly 1000 TONS CO2 per second.

It's the Environment, stupid.
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Oblivion.
______________________________________

I Stink Therefore I Am.

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Lord DunLOP
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Post: #41
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:35 AM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:16 AM)
Yeah right, thousands of climate scientist are all lying in unison, that's just moronic.

A moron is someone who listens to the propaganda and doesn't research issues for himself.

Seems to me I'm listening to your propaganda and provide the research to disprove it. Another way for a person to merit moron is to create propaganda that just don't fit the facts.

It's the Environment, stupid.
______________________________________

The finish-line of the Rat Race lays in
Oblivion.
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I Stink Therefore I Am.

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tamarack
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06-18-2019 02:02 AM

 



Post: #42
RE: CO2 lags Temperature On All Time Scales
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:51 AM)
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (06-18-2019 01:35 AM)
A moron is someone who listens to the propaganda and doesn't research issues for himself.

Seems to me I'm listening to your propaganda and providing the research to disprove it. Another way for person to merit moron is to create propaganda that just don't fit the facts.

You didn't even bother to look at Ventusky.

You quote the same crowd who says fluoride is the best scientific discovery of the 20th
century.

They all said Oswald killed Kennedy too.

People lie all the time.
They especially lie to keep their stipends and salaries.
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