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We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
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We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define what is and isn’t hate speech. They then censor whatever they disagree with.

June 15, 2019 by IWB

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Usually, when Steven Crowder does a “Change My Mind,” he heads to a University campus to challenge the students there on their viewpoints, and as the name of the bit implies, change his mind as well. Reactions to Crowder tend to range from understanding and conversational to rage and tears.

After Crowder became the focal point of the recent YouTube controversy where Vox and Carlos Maza pushed the platform to censor anything remotely offensive to them, Google decided to do a “Change My Mind” and take it straight to a corporate campus, the Google HQ in Austin, Texas.

Crowder noted in the video that he expected to find a lot of opposition, instead what he found was a lot of people who agreed with him despite being political opposites. Only one man actually advocated using violence to silence crowder, and one guy was concerned with chemicals turning the frickin’ frogs gay.

“Not only did everyone find themselves ultimately agreeing with us on the idea of hate speech, but more than ever before, people seemed legitimately concerned,” said Crowder.

“They really pressed us for answers to concerning questions,” he added.

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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
Hate speech is just words you disagree with. Scary who decides what is and what is not.
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
If the government has any stake in these corporations, then
the censorship is a violation of the first amendment and they need
to be put in prison for denying people their constitutional rights.
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
tamarack  Wrote: (06-17-2019 02:06 AM)
If the government has any stake in these corporations, then
the censorship is a violation of the first amendment and they need
to be put in prison for denying people their constitutional rights.

As a matter of fact they have awarded huge contacts to google, Facebook, etc.

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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
Strategos  Wrote: (06-17-2019 02:26 AM)
tamarack  Wrote: (06-17-2019 02:06 AM)
If the government has any stake in these corporations, then
the censorship is a violation of the first amendment and they need
to be put in prison for denying people their constitutional rights.

As a matter of fact they have awarded huge contacts to google, Facebook, etc.

Discrimination shouldn't be tolerated then -denying constitutional
rights.

More so if the government owns their stock. I'm thinking the Plunge
Protection Team probably purchased huge blocks of stock.

The private companies can get away with a lot of censorship as
routine practice, then there is something called 'community standards',
and even state's rights.

The right for gays to get married was a big issue at one time in certain
states.

The supreme court got involved and made it a federal issue to uphold
the less popular opinion -which violated community standards and
state's rights by making it a constitutional right.

The issue of pornography was similar.
Community standards over-rule the right to free expression in some cases.
Hugh Hefner eventually won the right to publish Hustler.

Now these control freaks are limiting expression again by blacklisting
people with whom they disagree.
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
Correction,
I meant to say Larry Flynt.
He didn't win unrestricted right to publish.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Flynt
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
SCOTUS has ALREADY decided this.

State of Colorado vs. Cake Bakery .

SCOTUS ruled that the "Gay's" 1st Amendment rights didn't override the Business owners right(s) to decide how he/she wanted to conduct/run business .


YouTube / Facebook / other Social Media platforms are Private company platforms .

Unless you're saying the trump packed SCOTUS is wrong.....



And what about the platform we're currently using to communicate....is LOP censoring your view ?....they're not located in the US so US law(s) don't apply to them ...what if YouTube and Google and FB just move offshore ...what then ?


If 'conservatives' are so upset then let them put their money where their mouth is and startup their own SM platform(s) catering to "conservatives"
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tamarack
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-17-2019 01:45 PM)
SCOTUS has ALREADY decided this.

State of Colorado vs. Cake Bakery .

SCOTUS ruled that the "Gay's" 1st Amendment rights didn't override the Business owners right(s) to decide how he/she wanted to conduct/run business .


YouTube / Facebook / other Social Media platforms are Private company platforms .

Unless you're saying the trump packed SCOTUS is wrong.....



And what about the platform we're currently using to communicate....is LOP censoring your view ?....they're not located in the US so US law(s) don't apply to them ...what if YouTube and Google and FB just move offshore ...what then ?


If 'conservatives' are so upset then let them put their money where their mouth is and startup their own SM platform(s) catering to "conservatives"

Let's be careful about the argument. (We don't want to make Lopers even more
ignorant than they already are)

-LOP censors tons of stuff, as is their right and privilege.

-Gay marriage is now legal in all states, regardless of the community standards in each
case.

-A private business can't be forced to go against their conscience by a customer's demand in certain cases, like baking a special order cake.

-State laws, sometimes, are above federal law,,, like in marijuana legalization, maybe immigration, also abortion law.

The constitution has something called the equal protection clause.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

The Equal Protection Clause is located at the end of Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


^This makes the state the protector of civil liberty, except under certain conditions.

The government doesn't hold ownership in any bakeries, afaik, but they may own share of, (and influence over) communication platforms.

Blacklisting, shadow-banning, trolling, shilling, gas-lighting, and defaming Youtube
channels & etc. may be (clearly are) a violation of the 1st amendment.

If the government owns part of these platforms, or has over-bearing influence on them, then by law they are supposed to protect our rights EQUALLY,,, not be prejudiced.
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Post: #9
RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
tamarack  Wrote: (06-17-2019 03:01 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-17-2019 01:45 PM)
SCOTUS has ALREADY decided this.

State of Colorado vs. Cake Bakery .

SCOTUS ruled that the "Gay's" 1st Amendment rights didn't override the Business owners right(s) to decide how he/she wanted to conduct/run business .


YouTube / Facebook / other Social Media platforms are Private company platforms .

Unless you're saying the trump packed SCOTUS is wrong.....



And what about the platform we're currently using to communicate....is LOP censoring your view ?....they're not located in the US so US law(s) don't apply to them ...what if YouTube and Google and FB just move offshore ...what then ?


If 'conservatives' are so upset then let them put their money where their mouth is and startup their own SM platform(s) catering to "conservatives"

Let's be careful about the argument. (We don't want to make Lopers even more
ignorant than they already are)

-LOP censors tons of stuff, as is their right and privilege.

-Gay marriage is now legal in all states, regardless of the community standards in each
case.

-A private business can't be forced to go against their conscience by a customer's demand in certain cases, like baking a special order cake.

-State laws, sometimes, are above federal law,,, like in marijuana legalization, maybe immigration, also abortion law.

The constitution has something called the equal protection clause.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

The Equal Protection Clause is located at the end of Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


^This makes the state the protector of civil liberty, except under certain conditions.

The government doesn't hold ownership in any bakeries, afaik, but they may own share of, (and influence over) communication platforms.

Blacklisting, shadow-banning, trolling, shilling, gas-lighting, and defaming Youtube
channels & etc. may be (clearly are) a violation of the 1st amendment.

If the government owns part of these platforms, or has over-bearing influence on them, then by law they are supposed to protect our rights EQUALLY,,, not be prejudiced.

Sorry but in this instance the US Gov. doesn't have ANY standing... This isn't a brand new problem, If there was a 1st amendment case here then the "Ambulance chasers" would have already taken YT/FB/SM to court.
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
When you put small, infertile gay men in power...

Trump...
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tamarack
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-17-2019 03:17 PM)
Sorry but in this instance the US Gov. doesn't have ANY standing... This isn't a brand new problem, If there was a 1st amendment case here then the "Ambulance chasers" would have already taken YT/FB/SM to court.

Oh, It certainly isn't a new problem.

You may not have heard of blacklisting.

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictiona...acklisting
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
tamarack  Wrote: (06-17-2019 03:01 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-17-2019 01:45 PM)
SCOTUS has ALREADY decided this.

State of Colorado vs. Cake Bakery .

SCOTUS ruled that the "Gay's" 1st Amendment rights didn't override the Business owners right(s) to decide how he/she wanted to conduct/run business .


YouTube / Facebook / other Social Media platforms are Private company platforms .

Unless you're saying the trump packed SCOTUS is wrong.....



And what about the platform we're currently using to communicate....is LOP censoring your view ?....they're not located in the US so US law(s) don't apply to them ...what if YouTube and Google and FB just move offshore ...what then ?


If 'conservatives' are so upset then let them put their money where their mouth is and startup their own SM platform(s) catering to "conservatives"

Let's be careful about the argument. (We don't want to make Lopers even more
ignorant than they already are)

-LOP censors tons of stuff, as is their right and privilege.

-Gay marriage is now legal in all states, regardless of the community standards in each
case.

-A private business can't be forced to go against their conscience by a customer's demand in certain cases, like baking a special order cake.

-State laws, sometimes, are above federal law,,, like in marijuana legalization, maybe immigration, also abortion law.

The constitution has something called the equal protection clause.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Protection_Clause

The Equal Protection Clause is located at the end of Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


^This makes the state the protector of civil liberty, except under certain conditions.

The government doesn't hold ownership in any bakeries, afaik, but they may own share of, (and influence over) communication platforms.

Blacklisting, shadow-banning, trolling, shilling, gas-lighting, and defaming Youtube
channels & etc. may be (clearly are) a violation of the 1st amendment.

If the government owns part of these platforms, or has over-bearing influence on them, then by law they are supposed to protect our rights EQUALLY,,, not be prejudiced.

Outstanding post!

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https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-06-27-v...alism.html


Vimeo bans Project Veritas, Natural News on the same day as criminal tech giants collude to silence independent journalism

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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
Can a 'person' grow too big to fail?

Are biggest 'persons' in the land the real citizens?

Has anyone elected these corporate 'persons' to any office?

These are giants and they rule the land.
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RE: We have a small group of people backed by corporate dollars attempting to define
So the (pharisees commies west fakes aka satans army) help (theatre bomb) barbarian desert hell hole. then the refugees (demon invaders) march for the holy lands europa to murder and pillage under the name of their lord sinagog of satan. Nuke purge the infiltrators. Treason against GOD
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