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Deutsche Bank investigated, trouble ahead!
MR2
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SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (07-21-2019 10:47 PM)
There's never one cockroach. Someone else is counting those derivatives that DB is party to as an asset.

That means if DB goes down, payment streams stop and we're right back to where we were in 2008 except there's lots more debt.

And over $15 trillion in negative yielding debt as well. The problem is that the central banks have assumed control of the market, and the market is an unpredictable beast.

Good luck maintaining communist control of the markets.

I think you might be confusing 'communist' with 'unregulated capitalism'..I know sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

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SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (07-21-2019 10:47 PM)
There's never one cockroach. Someone else is counting those derivatives that DB is party to as an asset.

That means if DB goes down, payment streams stop and we're right back to where we were in 2008 except there's lots more debt.

And over $15 trillion in negative yielding debt as well. The problem is that the central banks have assumed control of the market, and the market is an unpredictable beast.

Good luck maintaining communist control of the markets.

I think you might be confusing 'communist' with 'unregulated capitalism'..I know sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

2 different things here. First of all the markets have more regulations that they have ever had, in fact there are millions of regulations.

The problem is none of the too big too fail entities are held to the same standards of following those regulations as little players are.

How many times have big firms just paid fines as settlement for white collar crimes that would mandate decades of prison time for those involved in saner times?

The communist control of the markets is coming from the central banks that force interest rates down to 'spur' lending causing the economy to apparently grow, but really they just go deeper into debt faster than they would with higher rates of interest.

The communist control of the markets is coming from the government itself that buys and sells shares of stock to affect price movements and to direct the HFT algos. The communist control of the markets is coming from places like Japan and China that already own large percentages of stocks and ETFs, they just print more currency and buy the shares to support asset prices.

This encourages the idiotic behavior of major players like DB, and they know if their crime ever goes south they will get bailed out and the bank will pay some taxes, errr I mean fines.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (07-21-2019 10:58 PM)
MR2  Wrote: (07-21-2019 10:51 PM)
I think you might be confusing 'communist' with 'unregulated capitalism'..I know sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.

2 different things here. First of all the markets have more regulations that they have ever had, in fact there are millions of regulations.

The problem is none of the too big too fail entities are held to the same standards of following those regulations as little players are.

How many times have big firms just paid fines as settlement for white collar crimes that would mandate decades of prison time for those involved in saner times?

The communist control of the markets is coming from the central banks that force interest rates down to 'spur' lending causing the economy to apparently grow, but really they just go deeper into debt faster than they would with higher rates of interest.

The communist control of the markets is coming from the government itself that buys and sells shares of stock to affect price movements and to direct the HFT algos. The communist control of the markets is coming from places like Japan and China that already own large percentages of stocks and ETFs, they just print more currency and buy the shares to support asset prices.

This encourages the idiotic behavior of major players like DB, and they know if their crime ever goes south they will get bailed out and the bank will pay some taxes, errr I mean fines.

"First of all the markets have more regulations that they have ever had" Jptdknpa you are a f*cking idiot..first statement..right off the bat. We are talking about banks for a start.. The reversal of Glass-Steagal, the introduction of derivatives, The ability to use pension funds in sub prime, the taking over of small banks by larger ones, fractional reserve banking, quantitative easing...all made possible by deregulation...you are a f*cking moron right off the bat.

The bailing out of the banks is socialist..but that's not what caused the problem...It was deregulation and the non enforcement of law (which you touched on but from a f**ked up perspective)

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Post: #94
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MR2  Wrote: (07-22-2019 01:02 AM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (07-21-2019 10:58 PM)
2 different things here. First of all the markets have more regulations that they have ever had, in fact there are millions of regulations.

The problem is none of the too big too fail entities are held to the same standards of following those regulations as little players are.

How many times have big firms just paid fines as settlement for white collar crimes that would mandate decades of prison time for those involved in saner times?

The communist control of the markets is coming from the central banks that force interest rates down to 'spur' lending causing the economy to apparently grow, but really they just go deeper into debt faster than they would with higher rates of interest.

The communist control of the markets is coming from the government itself that buys and sells shares of stock to affect price movements and to direct the HFT algos. The communist control of the markets is coming from places like Japan and China that already own large percentages of stocks and ETFs, they just print more currency and buy the shares to support asset prices.

This encourages the idiotic behavior of major players like DB, and they know if their crime ever goes south they will get bailed out and the bank will pay some taxes, errr I mean fines.

"First of all the markets have more regulations that they have ever had" Jptdknpa you are a f*cking idiot..first statement..right off the bat. We are talking about banks for a start.. The reversal of Glass-Steagal, the introduction of derivatives, The ability to use pension funds in sub prime, the taking over of small banks by larger ones, fractional reserve banking, quantitative easing...all made possible by deregulation...you are a f*cking moron right off the bat.

The bailing out of the banks is socialist..but that's not what caused the problem...It was deregulation and the non enforcement of law (which you touched on but from a f**ked up perspective)

Man you are an idiot, it was Clinton, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin who eliminated Glass Steagall banking standards.

And I guess you don't realize they imposed 'safer' banking standards after 2008 with Frank Dodd do you?

All you have is gufawing you sound like a donkey.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (07-22-2019 01:07 AM)
MR2  Wrote: (07-22-2019 01:02 AM)
"First of all the markets have more regulations that they have ever had" Jptdknpa you are a f*cking idiot..first statement..right off the bat. We are talking about banks for a start.. The reversal of Glass-Steagal, the introduction of derivatives, The ability to use pension funds in sub prime, the taking over of small banks by larger ones, fractional reserve banking, quantitative easing...all made possible by deregulation...you are a f*cking moron right off the bat.

The bailing out of the banks is socialist..but that's not what caused the problem...It was deregulation and the non enforcement of law (which you touched on but from a f**ked up perspective)

Man you are an idiot, it was Clinton, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin who eliminated Glass Steagall banking standards.

And I guess you don't realize they imposed 'safer' banking standards after 2008 with Frank Dodd do you?

All you have is gufawing you sound like a donkey.

Never said it wasn't the Clintons...Projecting much?.. and yes they did impose restrictions in 2008 and just about all of those have been loosened or repealed by Obama and Trump since.


Yep Moron...so wrapped up in your political ideology you just don't see how the system is run...still unaware it's both sides of politics that are the same and no longer represent the people...shooting yourself in the foot to propagate a state of perpetual slavery.

you sound like a moron... no political party involved.

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You guys are both right:)

Deregulation led to and allowed the insane excess, which then led to the instability and distortions which then required CBs to use extreme tools and insane policy management to keep the entire pile of bullshit from imploding.

Oh but it will still most certainly implode like never before.. Popcorn
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-22-2019 01:39 AM)
You guys are both right:)

Deregulation led to and allowed the insane excess, which then led to the instability and distortions which then required CBs to use extreme tools and insane policy management to keep the entire pile of bullshit from imploding.

Oh but it will still most certainly implode like never before.. Popcorn

Jhikpghf Not long to go now...they will try reducing rates and QE to infinity...but the end is inevitable...Just one bank like Deutsche Bank goes down and it's all over.. too big to fail.

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MR2  Wrote: (07-22-2019 01:15 AM)
you sound like a moron... no political party involved.

not just any moron.. an identity conflict populist moron.. a puke bag personality cultist.

everything must be shrouded in communism.. it's fkn joke.

They don't even know the difference between public purpose spending and socialist economic policy... to these brainwashed individuals if they are not blabbering on about how extreme the domestic left wing are they feel their post is wasted..

no more .
we have to call it out ever time we see it.
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MR2  Wrote: (07-11-2019 03:17 AM)
OK..for the last few days I've been posting on different threads about Deutsche Bank being in trouble, reducing their workforce by 1800 mostly in the U.S, Asia and Australia, How they are transferring billions of dollars of bad equity into another holding to write it off over the next few years, how their profits were the lowest of any major banks and that is discounting what they owe to other banks, How they have paid billions in fines for bad deceptive practices, how they have 41 trillion exposure to the derivative market..... Well, it looks like they are under investigation again.




BREAKING: Deutsche Bank investigated, trouble ahead!:






This is the 6th largest bank in the world...in serious trouble.


Popcorn

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Deutsche Bank reduce its workforce by 18,000.
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