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Poll: Should Flat Earth be a Topic of Discussion allowed here a Lunatic Outpost.
Yes, regardless of whether I agree with the topic or not it should be allowed to be discussed.
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Should Flat Earth be a Topic of Discussion allowed on LOP: Non-Biased Poll Answers
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seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 09:57 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 09:54 PM)
talking of poles how many does the earth have no matter what it's shape?

8, assuming you mean North and South Poles... but I'm guessing for all shapes anything divisible by two works

http://discovermagazine.com/2014/dec/23-...north-pole
There are four North Poles. The terrestrial North Pole is a fixed geographic point that's diametrically opposed to the terrestrial South Pole on our planet's axis of rotation; it's the top of the spinning top that's Earth.

https://thinkglobalschool.org/do-you-kno...there-are/
four South Poles
Of the many interesting historical facts and stories he told, the students were amazed to find there are four South Poles on the Earth's crust: The Geographic South Pole. The South Magnetic Pole.Mar 6, 2012

around 60 million if you mean the Poles as in the people
Poles - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles
Estimates vary depending on source, though available data suggest a total number of around 60 million people worldwide (with roughly 21 million living outside of Poland, many of whom are not of Polish ethnicity, but Polish nationals). There are almost 38 million Poles in Poland alone.

That wasn't a fishing pole lol
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Post: #47
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 10:27 PM)
seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 10:05 AM)
Are you actually stating that anyone discussing Flat Earth is as bad as a pedophile or terrorist? Really, is that what you are saying???

I am saying that people who promote lies are destructive to society.
As are terrorists and paedophiles.

People who declare what are lies and what aren't lies based upon their personal views and beliefs are even more dangerous to society.
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Post: #48
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 10:33 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 08:53 PM)
Do you have proof of Dark Matter? Because that’s what’s needed to hold your preferred cosmological model together. You are putting your faith in something undetectable and invisible.

Why yes.
There is evidence of an enormous amount of missing mass.
The name applied to that unknown is dark matter.
Dark matter is "undetectable" in the same way wind is "invisible".
You cant see them but you sure as sh*t can see their effect.

lol, dark matter in its description violates the rules of physics as they do not apply to dark matter
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11-15-2019 11:23 PM

 




Post: #49
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seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:17 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 10:27 PM)
I am saying that people who promote lies are destructive to society.
As are terrorists and paedophiles.

People who declare what are lies and what aren't lies based upon their personal views and beliefs are even more dangerous to society.

Hahahahahahahaha
So you're ignoring flat earthers when you type that out.

Their entire ideology is based upon the premise that the entire scientific community is made up of liars.
They declare the whole world liars.
GPS-lies
Satellites-lies
Space program- lies
Geology- lies
Volcanology- lies
Historians- lies

and on and on and on

I'm glad you can acknowledge how damaging they are.
I only wish you would honestly apply your judgement to them.
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Post: #50
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seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:20 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 10:33 PM)
Why yes.
There is evidence of an enormous amount of missing mass.
The name applied to that unknown is dark matter.
Dark matter is "undetectable" in the same way wind is "invisible".
You cant see them but you sure as sh*t can see their effect.

lol, dark matter in its description violates the rules of physics as they do not apply to dark matter

that is not true.
It is errors in calculations based upon observable matter that lead to the hypothesis of dark matter.
It is a proposed solution to errors found with "the rules of physics".
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Post: #51
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:26 PM)
seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:20 PM)
lol, dark matter in its description violates the rules of physics as they do not apply to dark matter

that is not true.
It is errors in calculations based upon observable matter that lead to the hypothesis of dark matter.
It is a proposed solution to errors found with "the rules of physics".

Dark matter may not actually exist: physicists suggests testable alternative
NEWS PHYSICS 07 FEBRUARY 2019
https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/dark-...lternative

Scientists have been searching for “dark matter” – an unknown and invisible substance thought to make up the vast majority of matter in the universe – for nearly a century. The reason for this persistence is that dark matter is needed to account for the fact that galaxies don’t seem to obey the fundamental laws of physics. However, dark matter searches have remained unsuccessful.

----- I'm not going to worship this religion (lol, theory) simply because physicists state that an invisible force that can't be measured or explained is the explanation of why their religion works.
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Post: #52
RE: Should Flat Earth be a Topic of Discussion allowed on LOP: Non-Biased Poll Answers
seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:42 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:26 PM)
that is not true.
It is errors in calculations based upon observable matter that lead to the hypothesis of dark matter.
It is a proposed solution to errors found with "the rules of physics".

Dark matter may not actually exist: physicists suggests testable alternative
NEWS PHYSICS 07 FEBRUARY 2019
https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/dark-...lternative

Scientists have been searching for “dark matter” – an unknown and invisible substance thought to make up the vast majority of matter in the universe – for nearly a century. The reason for this persistence is that dark matter is needed to account for the fact that galaxies don’t seem to obey the fundamental laws of physics. However, dark matter searches have remained unsuccessful.

----- I'm not going to worship this religion (lol, theory) simply because physicists state that an invisible force that can't be measured or explained is the explanation of why their religion works.

You'll just try to conflate science with religion and leverage your ignorance into an excuse to dismiss understanding.
You dislike those who admit they dont know and do their best to find evidence and test their understanding to expand all of our understanding.
All so you can pretend baseless religious claims to perfect knowledge are superior to empirical knowledge.

Just as you ignored your claim against me fits better the flat earther cult you're defending.
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Post: #53
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 12:33 AM)
seasnake  Wrote: (11-15-2019 11:42 PM)
Dark matter may not actually exist: physicists suggests testable alternative
NEWS PHYSICS 07 FEBRUARY 2019
https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/dark-...lternative

Scientists have been searching for “dark matter” – an unknown and invisible substance thought to make up the vast majority of matter in the universe – for nearly a century. The reason for this persistence is that dark matter is needed to account for the fact that galaxies don’t seem to obey the fundamental laws of physics. However, dark matter searches have remained unsuccessful.

----- I'm not going to worship this religion (lol, theory) simply because physicists state that an invisible force that can't be measured or explained is the explanation of why their religion works.

You'll just try to conflate science with religion and leverage your ignorance into an excuse to dismiss understanding.
You dislike those who admit they dont know and do their best to find evidence and test their understanding to expand all of our understanding.
All so you can pretend baseless religious claims to perfect knowledge are superior to empirical knowledge.

Just as you ignored your claim against me fits better the flat earther cult you're defending.

If that is what I truly accomplish, than everyone that I ended up expanding their knowledge by making them do their own research really ought to be grateful. Are you against knowledge and learning? If this thread accomplishes learning and expansion of one's knowledge then it is a very beneficial topic to have.

Thanks.
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Post: #54
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seasnake  Wrote: (11-16-2019 12:51 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 12:33 AM)
You'll just try to conflate science with religion and leverage your ignorance into an excuse to dismiss understanding.
You dislike those who admit they dont know and do their best to find evidence and test their understanding to expand all of our understanding.
All so you can pretend baseless religious claims to perfect knowledge are superior to empirical knowledge.

Just as you ignored your claim against me fits better the flat earther cult you're defending.

If that is what I truly accomplish, than everyone that I ended up expanding their knowledge by making them do their own research really ought to be grateful. Are you against knowledge and learning? If this thread accomplishes learning and expansion of one's knowledge then it is a very beneficial topic to have.

Thanks.

Wow. You think lying to people is a good thing.

And again you ignore that flat earth is founded on calling everyone on earth who doesn't mouth the dogma of flat earth a liar.

Truly a wonderful summation of why it should continue to be banned.
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⚡Falcon⚡  Wrote: (11-15-2019 03:45 AM)
None of my business.

this is not your safe space
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Post: #56
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 01:24 AM)
seasnake  Wrote: (11-16-2019 12:51 AM)
If that is what I truly accomplish, than everyone that I ended up expanding their knowledge by making them do their own research really ought to be grateful. Are you against knowledge and learning? If this thread accomplishes learning and expansion of one's knowledge then it is a very beneficial topic to have.

Thanks.

Wow. You think lying to people is a good thing.

And again you ignore that flat earth is founded on calling everyone on earth who doesn't mouth the dogma of flat earth a liar.

Truly a wonderful summation of why it should continue to be banned.

I think the seeking of knowledge and learning to be a good thing. If that is the result of the Flat Earth threads, then surely they have given a lot to be thankful for. If you believe the seeking out of knowledge and the expansion of one's understanding are awful things, then that says more about you than it does about anyone else. I personally like to challenge notions, to learn, and to expand knowledge.
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Post: #57
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seasnake  Wrote: (11-16-2019 01:29 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 01:24 AM)
Wow. You think lying to people is a good thing.

And again you ignore that flat earth is founded on calling everyone on earth who doesn't mouth the dogma of flat earth a liar.

Truly a wonderful summation of why it should continue to be banned.

I think the seeking of knowledge and learning to be a good thing. If that is the result of the Flat Earth threads, then surely they have given a lot to be thankful for. If you believe the seeking out of knowledge and the expansion of one's understanding are awful things, then that says more about you than it does about anyone else. I personally like to challenge notions, to learn, and to expand knowledge.

Maybe don't lie to yourself about the result of a cult promoting their bullshit.
You can pretend that playing Goebbels and simply repeating a lie ad naseum while attacking anyone who demonstrates the falsehoods you spew is good but you would be wrong.
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If actual discussion were to be had. But people who just say "NO THAT'S FAKE, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN REALITY OR FACTS, I AM A DENIALIST FUCKTARD. THE END!" Should never be tolerated anywhere at all.

Devil done got on top of me
Bad times got a monopoly
Give up, I did the opposite
Pitch perfect, did it properly
Owner killed by his property

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg0byaqVaXo
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Post: #59
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 01:32 AM)
seasnake  Wrote: (11-16-2019 01:29 AM)
I think the seeking of knowledge and learning to be a good thing. If that is the result of the Flat Earth threads, then surely they have given a lot to be thankful for. If you believe the seeking out of knowledge and the expansion of one's understanding are awful things, then that says more about you than it does about anyone else. I personally like to challenge notions, to learn, and to expand knowledge.

Maybe don't lie to yourself about the result of a cult promoting their bullshit.
You can pretend that playing Goebbels and simply repeating a lie ad naseum while attacking anyone who demonstrates the falsehoods you spew is good but you would be wrong.

I do my best not to attack individuals, nobody is perfect, and nobody enjoys being attacked so attacking back from being attacked can occasionally erupt. That however is not a plan or a goal or even desirable to engage into. I doubt that there is a Flat Earth Cult, but I could be wrong as cults tend to form up on about anything. If notions and ideas are brought up that stir my imagination and make me aware of stuff I've never considered then I like to look into and examine it. I like to read the assumptions though, the fine print, all the areas where things that are in grey areas, the stuff that doesn't ever add up.
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GrimShaw  Wrote: (11-16-2019 01:38 AM)
If actual discussion were to be had. But people who just say "NO THAT'S FAKE, I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN REALITY OR FACTS, I AM A DENIALIST FUCKTARD. THE END!" Should never be tolerated anywhere at all.

Neither should be giving people long reading lists and insisting they go through all the effort to look at the stuff that the suggester hasn't even looked at themselves just to respond to it, met with only disdain when people actually suffer through the bullshit assignments and point out the listed assumptions that went into all that trash. The goal isn't to inform or to converse or anything other than to try to send people onto wild goose chases while constantly belittling them for not looking at the worthless trash. If you haven't watched a video, or read an article, or the like yourself then don't recommend it to anyone to read as a demand or requirement for discussion. Additionally, don't ask anyone to do anything like that unless you yourself are willing to examine what they submit to you to examine in kind.
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