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Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
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Post: #16
RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
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Some quotes from the
Project Looking Glass (The Multiverse, Time Travel, Cosmic strings, etc) thread
that also got blasted by epic trolling :
CoolGirlZarif  Wrote: (11-26-2018 07:21 PM)
Project Looking Glass

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc...gglass.htm

Quantum

Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (11-26-2018 08:09 PM)
The part about the pancakes is pretty good.

https://runesoup.com/2013/03/everything-...lications/

Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (11-26-2018 08:48 PM)
From the link above..
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the remote viewer somehow accesses the information from a point in the future where she is aware of the correct answer. And to get at that correct answer she must sneak past her own conscious awareness. Using literally anything. Random number generators, coordinates, it doesn't matter.

In fact, you can even use pancakes. Recognising that RV works better with textures and shapes than numbers and letters, Targ devised a system called Associative Remote Viewing and tested it by trading silver for nine weeks. At the close of the market on a Friday afternoon, their trader would handle an old pancake from breakfast to indicate that silver had closed down a lot, two other objects to indicate whether silver had closed down a little or up a little... and a bottle of champagne if it had closed up a lot.

They called it right nine weeks in a row, made $120,000 in early 80s money and were featured on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. (How are your money spells going? Why?) Somewhere in here I see a potential mechanism of action for why using relevant symbols (colours, stones, etc) might improve the outcome of your practical enchantments.

Anon

Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (11-26-2018 09:08 PM)
There you go, October 22, 1984, you can read the full article.

https://www.wanttoknow.info/a-did-psychi...ver-market

Bonus: Banned TED talk:





This seems sort of connected, I think
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Infinite Wait  Wrote: (11-16-2019 11:49 PM)
Like those so recently released ufo leaked vids some other place than here.
I already objectively viewed and remember them as both observer and participant inside if you can fathom such, as like being in your tv show, but also.

The third omnipotent perspective where you have semi-conscious concept and grasp of all the simultaneous unfolding overlaid and cross connected mesh of continuity and conglomerated events you can't always see the full diorama in action from inside is a limited first person perspective, esp when flying. And a lot takes place in a virtual set where the objects and the combined footage seen aren't functioning together necessarily in ways your partially inside a cloud-bank thinking out and seeing into it in layers, like the Two white triangular starships in battle of IO.

I remember myself and female companion cheering, for the sake of encouragement, that "we're coming to blow you up assholes' shadow boxing, looking down exactly from where the camera perspective is but after interactions on closer more personal levels where we began cheering for our (supposedly) super star destroyer' and the little pup ship, the stubby fighter that accompanies it.

I suspect may or may not have been the good guys or even on my side or to my best interest to cheer for, but then the big white star-destroyer bites the dust, we we're yelling, oh we still have the little one, you'll never beat that SOB, but I think it may or may not have survived either.

Then there's the one where the flame engulfed victim is standing with outstretched arms like Elias in platoon, that was supposedly after I ditched my spaceship on an asteroid or something and got lit on fire, so I was praising God for such a beautiful, peaceful, all loving life I'd had, as my going out in a blaze of glory pose that just screams 'YOU DICK"

with just a touch of presentation your posts are much more readable

'triangular starships'

The beings on these craft are future humans and past inhabitants of this planet.
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That article aligns with my thoughts concerning the nature of our existence and experiences. I am also still convinced that the true n nature of our reality is illusionary, just as all of our dreams are. The simplest analogy would be: We exist within the mind of god (I prefer to call it the matrix of all possibilities). This also explains why our existence, our lives, must be temporary too. It explains everything that's possible and not possible. The matrix is static throughout all the dimensions of time. And it has always existed throughout the existence of time. We are here moving through time as observers and experiencing it because we are a possibility too within the matrix of all things possible.
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Religion pushed on the masses via science falsely called.


The truth warned us all.
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No idea how subjective reality would even work (other than the obvious solution of there being only one real observer per universe), but I'm not really interested in that subject anyway.

I'm still trying to figure out how black holes work.

I used to think that a black hole's history would be, kind of, "frozen in time" inside of its interior, but that idea just doesn't jive with the fact that black holes have no volume, only a surface.

Now, I'm more inclined toward the idea that, as black hole expands, the space itself that should be forming its volume (interior) gets stretched over its surface instead.

In other words, the space itself gets packed (3D->2D) onto the surface of a black hole, which can only happen if the packing process employs a very specific form of a (fractal) space-filling curve.

Furthermore, the packing process also has to be "time"- independent, that is, fully state-reversible (2D->3D) when black hole contracts, in order to be able to return the black hole's surface (information contained on it) to exactly the same state it was in before. Otherwise, the continuity of information-states (the "laws of physics") would break down.

The (fractal) packing (3D->2D) and unpacking (2D->3D) processes would be, to state the obvious here, the foundational meta-laws of the "laws of physics".

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Fun fact: Apparently, the shortest distance between two points on the surface of a black hole is not only not a straight line, but actually a zigzaggin maze of a seemingly random route defined by the form of the space-filling curve.

Still left to do: Figure out the exact form of the space-filling curve used by the packing/unpacking processes.

Once that little bit of a problem has been solved, literally everything about black holes will be known... and in all dimensions... however many of them may actually be "out" there.
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Scientists find out
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According
to Results of Quantum Experiment

Always put the subject first, then the object
and when you are not sure follow the media.
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That article aligns with my thoughts concerning the nature of our existence and experiences. I am also still convinced that the true n nature of our reality is illusionary, just as all of our dreams are. The simplest analogy would be: We exist within the mind of god (I prefer to call it the matrix of all possibilities). This also explains why our existence, our lives, must be temporary too. It explains everything that's possible and not possible. The matrix is static throughout all the dimensions of time. And it has always existed throughout the existence of time. We are here moving through time as observers and experiencing it because we are a possibility too within the matrix of all things possible.
Ttpcmasm
...not so much as in the mid of 'god' but as expressions of the creativity ,mind = consciousness , an action of that multi-dimensional ,creative inner vitality that creates everything in existence, expressed as this driving inviolate energy that creates this same action in everything down to the quantum level of experience to the largest galaxies imaginable.. who I might add have galactic consciousness and exist on other levels of reality as viable and tangible as this one. Solar consciousness and planetary consciousness and species mass consciousness and individual consciousness ( the observers, if you like).

But this is just it's expressions in this physical universe we are dealing with here.. in this timeline we are all on now..and how we observe it and how we intersect with each other's realities and further that understanding.. this somewhat tainted objectivity is being used against us.

So here we are ,in these meatsuits having a human experience..now... this immense ,infinite now exists in many dimensions outside of this material plane of existence, this framework where we all create our own realities with.. via our individual beliefs and cognition and recognition that give us our individual world views. Which I might add is also being used against us.
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Yes reality is belief, alot of people already knew that. 2 people can have different beliefs thus different facts.
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Scientists find out
Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According
to Results of Quantum Experiment

Always put the subject first, then the object
and when you are not sure follow the media.

Public finds out scientists findings are contingent upon how much of a story they can fabricate based upon how much grant money and funding they can dupe out of the government, private parties, and the public.
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Objective reality is simply mans ability to understand his own consciousness, and reject Atilla and the Witch Doctor as pre-Renaissance lies of defunct feudal-based serf led control and suppression of mans will.
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Norseman  Wrote: (11-17-2019 01:10 PM)
Objective reality is simply mans ability to understand his own consciousness

Here.. you started this out so well. It is where humans individual subjective realities, emotional responses, beliefs about themselves and the views about world they live in, intersect with the human collective reality, mass consciousness and mass subconscious...our individual realities bounce off each other all the time ,co-creating situations and agreements.. concepts like ,trust, empathy ,science, geopolitical alliances and right down into basic things like time, weight and all the conceivable measurements we use and abuse... it is here subjectivity is being manipulated to effect the commonly agreed upon aspects of the world... the 'human condition' and shared goals and hopes and dreams for the future.

pre-Renaissance lies of defunct feudal-based serf led control and suppression of mans will.

I can only grasp that you mean Judaeo-Christian religion here.. and I would tend to agree, it is like it is designed to beat us down and stop humanity from evolving and understanding the true nature of ourselves... but only we can do it for ourselves.. no aliens or wise spirits from the inner dimensions of the multiverse can't save us from that.

Somehow we must understand the unconditional love and our own natural inviolate grace that drives us, that created us and nurtures and guides us.. whether we know it or not.

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So basically everyone is right about everything because everything is subjective...Sounds about right for the snowflake, globalist, libtardian, wanker generations

Everything I've ever told you, including this, is a lie.
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (11-17-2019 01:41 PM)
Norseman  Wrote: (11-17-2019 01:10 PM)
Objective reality is simply mans ability to understand his own consciousness

Here.. you started this out so well. It is where humans individual subjective realities, emotional responses, beliefs about themselves and the views about world they live in, intersect with the human collective reality, mass consciousness and mass subconscious...our individual realities bounce off each other all the time ,co-creating situations and agreements.. concepts like ,trust, empathy ,science, geopolitical alliances and right down into basic things like time, weight and all the conceivable measurements we use and abuse... it is here subjectivity is being manipulated to effect the commonly agreed upon aspects of the world... the 'human condition' and shared goals and hopes and dreams for the future.

pre-Renaissance lies of defunct feudal-based serf led control and suppression of mans will.

I can only grasp that you mean Judaeo-Christian religion here.. and I would tend to agree, it is like it is designed to beat us down and stop humanity from evolving and understanding the true nature of ourselves... but only we can do it for ourselves.. no aliens or wise spirits from the inner dimensions of the multiverse can't save us from that.

Somehow we must understand the unconditional love and our own natural inviolate grace that drives us, that created us and nurtures and guides us.. whether we know it or not.

You are righteously expressing objective truth. Where I have a problem within how the western world has gone astray, is when Emmanuel Kant took away from the post-Renaissance understanding that the likes of Michelangelo and Dante gave us, to think for ourselves, the Attila's and Witch Doctors re-emerged and sent us back once again, at least in Europe.
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Quote:Any change makes me apprehensive, even if it offers the greatest promise of improving my condition, and I am persuaded by this natural instinct of mine that I must take heed if I wish that the threads which the Fates spin so thin and weak in my case to be spun to any length. My great thanks, to my well-wishers and friends, who think so kindly of me as to undertake my welfare, but at the same time a most humble request to protect me in my current condition from any disturbance

You seem pretty clever.. why face off, a philosopher against a political theorist and poet and an Attila which is a bit ambiguous.. I can only place the 'Hun' political strategist/warlord as your reference there..

Kant would be my favorite of the 3.. as you can probably guess
but Dante comes a close second.. he was one of the originators of his field but again why do you think Kant messed up his sh!t?

btw can you elaborate on 'witch doctors'
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Pinguu  Wrote: (11-17-2019 01:50 PM)
So basically everyone is right about everything because everything is subjective...Sounds about right for the snowflake, globalist, libtardian, wanker generations
So...every generation atleast since Religion came into play because they fight over what is up and what is down. But since its every generation it means that its normal so they are not wanker generations :D
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