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Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
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RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 09:41 PM)
Perceptions and Perspective

Conflict arises not directly from differences but from our perceptions of differences. Each person's perception is influenced by his/her perspective.

We attribute meaning using our perceptions not only in a direct manner but also any sub textual, abstract, and fallacious derivatives. Using empathy to see other perspectives can help broaden the view in an argument. Empathy is a communication skill. Perspective Taking is the ability to adopt the psychological viewpoint of others and adapt it to your own perceptions. How would you feel in another persons point of view?

Conflict often exists when one person perceives a difference causing discomfort. Perception is a cognitive activity; the process of assigning meaning to things we see and hear. Paying attention to our own perceptions as well as others can lead to common perspectives for the whole. Finding the perceived differences can help achieve this.

Each person's perception is influenced by the point in time at which an event or situation was noticed. This is the Punctuation Point of reference. Where does a conflict start and where does it end? Perceptions in the starting point of a conflict often cause the most misunderstanding. One person thinks a particular reason started it; the other thinks another reason is to blame. Reason can be tricky. Learning the starting point of each parties reason helps to moderate conflict.

A great metaphor to use is the lens effect. Widening the lens of your own perception shows a larger picture and changing the angle of it offers a different perspective. Giving you, the viewer, optimal literacy in resolving the conflict.

^^^This.


What is described in the article in the OP is not about *reality* being "subjective".......... but rather just merely our own perspective/percpetion of reality being subjective.

There is a difference between reality alone, and someone's perspective/perception of reality.

Perception - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perception



What is going on in the article much like the following phenomenon of perception - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubin_vase



What is going on in that OP's article is akin to two observers viewing a car passing by on opposite ends of the street...

One person sees the car go pass them in the left direction, and the other person sees the car pass them in their right direction.

Or they both might see the car as passing in neither direction, because they are simply not thinking in those *perspective* terms!


That is perspective/perception.


In that case, the *objective* reality is simply that all perceptions/perspectives are the reality.

Given that all perspectives/perceptions are true....... And this has exactly to to with "empathy" and "perspective taking" which the poster who I quote was talking about.


What that science article was talking about is dealing with *perspective* and *perception*...... which are both subjective... yet still exist within an totally objective singular reality as their subjective selves.
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RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
I think reality ex7sts. But we have some small choice, which part of it, to place our attention on.

Just like we, most of us, have some choice in what we will be having for our next meal. We also have a choice, of which adjacent 'brane' (spacetime plane, or membrane, to place our attention on. That are stacked up, in a dimension I call Trend, like moments are, in Time.

We decide what we want to have for lunch say..
'We' pay attention to, {'move to'}, the brane, where our brain, is thunking what 'we' want to be thinking about what we want.
Then we continue, brane to brane, where we are taking the actions needed, to have our choice for lunch.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-11-2019 11:04 PM)
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1. x. right/left, lets say.
2. y. up/down, lets say.
We can stack these x lines up on top of each other to make an x,y, plane.
3. z. forward/back, lets say.
We can stack these x, y, planes forward/back of each other to make our 3 dimensional 'world'. But, that would be only one frozen moment, instant, of our world. <(space)^
4. t. Time. future/past.
We can stack these moments up future/past of each other to make our 4 dimensional spacetime. 'membrane', "brane". in which the certain past, and the certain future, coexist, at their different locations in time.
Yet, 'we', seem to often be able to have som influence over what our position in space will be the next moment.

5. p. 'parallel planes', 'parallel universes', "trend".
This is the dimension of quantum wave, uncertainty, superpositions,
We can stack these spacetime branes up in trend, like we stacked moments up in time. In contiguous slices. Just like you are close to the same position in space, from one moment to the next. Similar conditions are close to each other, in contiguous slices of trend.

In one brane, our next moment, we might remain stationary. in another we may move to the left. in the opposite trend direction might be the brane we moved to the right. Or, forward, or back, or up, etc.
This freedom 'we' (conciousness?) seem to have to move limited distances in trend, is necessary to have, 'free will', to avoid a certain fixed future, in the 'current' brane.
In one brane, we might have a juice for lunch tomorro.
In another, close by, 'parrallel brane', we might have a beer
In a brane far far away, we might have a scotch on the rocks, on our own yacht, with a supermodel.)
But, many of us will not be able to make it to that brane by lunchtime.(

Its sort of the same, when we discover which brane we have placed our attention on, when we perform quantum experiments.

Maybe the experimenters who performed the Bell's theorem violation experiments, had wandering attentions. 1dunno1
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RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-17-2019 09:08 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 09:41 PM)
Perceptions and Perspective

Conflict arises not directly from differences but from our perceptions of differences. Each person's perception is influenced by his/her perspective.

We attribute meaning using our perceptions not only in a direct manner but also any sub textual, abstract, and fallacious derivatives. Using empathy to see other perspectives can help broaden the view in an argument. Empathy is a communication skill. Perspective Taking is the ability to adopt the psychological viewpoint of others and adapt it to your own perceptions. How would you feel in another persons point of view?

Conflict often exists when one person perceives a difference causing discomfort. Perception is a cognitive activity; the process of assigning meaning to things we see and hear. Paying attention to our own perceptions as well as others can lead to common perspectives for the whole. Finding the perceived differences can help achieve this.

Each person's perception is influenced by the point in time at which an event or situation was noticed. This is the Punctuation Point of reference. Where does a conflict start and where does it end? Perceptions in the starting point of a conflict often cause the most misunderstanding. One person thinks a particular reason started it; the other thinks another reason is to blame. Reason can be tricky. Learning the starting point of each parties reason helps to moderate conflict.

A great metaphor to use is the lens effect. Widening the lens of your own perception shows a larger picture and changing the angle of it offers a different perspective. Giving you, the viewer, optimal literacy in resolving the conflict.

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What that science article was talking about is dealing with *perspective* and *perception*...... which are both subjective... yet still exist within an totally objective singular reality as their subjective selves.

.... all perceptions/perspectives being true and valid.
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RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-17-2019 09:23 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-17-2019 09:08 PM)
[]...

What that science article was talking about is dealing with *perspective* and *perception*...... which are both subjective... yet still exist within an totally objective singular reality as their subjective selves.

.... all perceptions/perspectives being true and valid.

And to see this is to have the perspective of God...... the ONE TRUTH.

Objectiveness. <3
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-16-2019 09:50 PM)
so if someone annoys me, can I shout at them "quit overlapping into my reality!" or would they think I am a bit off my rocker?

Maybe a bit of both but funnychuckle
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What that science article was talking about is dealing with *perspective* and *perception*...... which are both subjective... yet still exist within an totally objective singular reality as their subjective selves.

.... all perceptions/perspectives being true and valid.

.... then maybe it also means we can fine tune and distort perceptions at will .... well, maybe not at will... do what thou wilt only goes so far ...

there's always a bigger fish... chuckle
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RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-17-2019 09:23 PM)
.... all perceptions/perspectives being true and valid.

.... then maybe it also means we can fine tune and distort perceptions at will .... well, maybe not at will... do what thou wilt only goes so far ...

there's always a bigger fish... chuckle

He mistranslated it, it was never supposed to be do what thou will, it was only twisted to be such because it was viewed through the lens of the ego and self.

It was always supposed to be translated as "do as thou will" because the free will of consciousness is paramount and expressing willpower is an event which causes ripples through time.

Being true to your vibratory will and spirit is of vital importance in expressing your sovereignty over yourself.
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RE: Objective Reality Doesn't Exist According to Results of Quantum Experiment
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-17-2019 05:01 PM)
Norseman  Wrote: (11-17-2019 04:49 PM)
I could agree with that.

Magnetic Focus Points? Or nets gathering incarnations and sorting them into specific categories for further perusal and analysis.

Maybe even like quantum 'alchemy' ..

IDK...

Maybe it needs new terms and definitions to articulate...

Maybe quantum means what our collective imagination can actually see and if we pay attention we can create something meaningful with it.
by focus personality I mean the 'you' that 'you are now.. the one you recognize living in this version of Earth on this particular timeline.. by Magnetic Focus Points do you mean this sort of stuff?

Quote:The Earth's diamagnetic flow field hits a reversal Bloch Wall area (south to north), at these special anomaly points like southern Florida or central Australia. The Equator Line is merely a myth for geographers and fools. The magnetic reversal areas of south to north magnetism flow are near the Tropics of Capricorn and Cancer; and these "spaced out" anomalies seem to alternate positions around the globe.

The best calculation I've arrived at indicates that there are within the Earth Grid a total of 20 magnetic reversal points, with 10 nearly on the Tropic of Capricorn and 10 magnetic reversal points nearly on the Tropic of Cancer. The two sets of ten points are offset almost equally from each other going around the globe; the northern set is roughly midway between the southern set


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/cienc...grid03.htm


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Unincorporated Human  Wrote: (11-17-2019 03:16 PM)
Quantum experiments don't exist according to objective reality.

If it can't be proven by repeatable experimentation then it is not science.

They don't do experiments anymore, they do press releases.

Actually, they are repeatable, we just can't control most of the variables yet because our minds and number theory is somewhat incompatible with multiple stacking infinities.

We are like children learning about our surroundings and opening our eyes for the first time. Things are bound to not make total sense until our wisdom improves. We are just beginning to learn how these unseen forces operate and why, much is still unknown.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-17-2019 02:32 PM)
Pinguu  Wrote: (11-17-2019 01:50 PM)
So basically everyone is right about everything because everything is subjective...Sounds about right for the snowflake, globalist, libtardian, wanker generations
So...every generation atleast since Religion came into play because they fight over what is up and what is down. But since its every generation it means that its normal so they are not wanker generations :D

That's what happens when you try to cram a infinite variable into a finite float variable.

Humans brains are finite and the universe is not as much. People give themselves stack overflow errors and just go with the wrong incomplete information. It's an error corrective measure but it still distorts the objective truth into a subjective truth by just perceiving it.
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eSheep  Wrote: (11-16-2019 08:25 PM)
Perhaps we are always emanating out from the Source into different realities which overlap to some degree... or not overlap in some cases.

https://www.livescience.com/objective-re...cists.html

I always suspected that every time we fall asleep we awake into another parallel universe much similar to the ones we left before we slept just not the same. But we never get around staying long enough to see the differences.

The Mother who birthed you is not the same person you talked to today nor is the wife you fell in love with.

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Sad that science as become the new BS!
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (11-18-2019 12:17 AM)
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You know that meme is truth in a way. Many of yesterdays scientist looked like Mark Zuckerberg's. Today many look like Roddy Piper.

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if objective reality doesn't exist then neither does quantum physics exist

quantum physics is simply the catholic religion masquerading as science
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