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Just some thoughts, and to say thanks
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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:10 AM)
I didn't really see it as a bait thread but $300 is my budget for the entire month, every month lol. Which is $30 too much to be eligible for food help from a food bank. But I 'll manage. Not that I have much of a choice...

I only fear what food prices will be like in the fairly near future. The China food contracts and the news on failed crops seem to be working together to create a food shortage with outrageous food inflation. One has to ask if it isn't by design.
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I didn't really see it as a bait thread but $300 is my budget for the entire month, every month lol. Which is $30 too much to be eligible for food help from a food bank. But I 'll manage. Not that I have much of a choice...

I'm just horrible with money, always have been. My mom helped out when she could, my dad not so much. I recently lost my mom, and yeah I admit it's entirely my fault and own stupidity that I didn't learn how to budget better when I was younger. And being an alcoholic doesn't help, I've tried quitting and it's just so damn hard.. I want to get help to overcome it, but again cost money. I have a friend I'm talking to about my issue, he's a huge supporter.

I'll get to where I need to be, in honor of my mom.. it's going to be hard, it won't be easy, I have a battle ahead of me and I'll do the best that I can.

Alcohol is a trap. It makes you feel good for a few hours but the hangover makes you feel terrible for days. So I didn't see it as quitting drinking but as quitting having hangovers.

But I agree, it can he hard. When you feel mentally healthier because of not drinking you feel the urge to celebrate and party. You have to resist that urge.

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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:38 AM)
Devious0ne  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:28 AM)
I'm just horrible with money, always have been. My mom helped out when she could, my dad not so much. I recently lost my mom, and yeah I admit it's entirely my fault and own stupidity that I didn't learn how to budget better when I was younger. And being an alcoholic doesn't help, I've tried quitting and it's just so damn hard.. I want to get help to overcome it, but again cost money. I have a friend I'm talking to about my issue, he's a huge supporter.

I'll get to where I need to be, in honor of my mom.. it's going to be hard, it won't be easy, I have a battle ahead of me and I'll do the best that I can.

Alcohol is a trap. It makes you feel good for a few hours but the hangover makes you feel terrible for days. So I didn't see it as quitting drinking but as quitting having hangovers.

But I agree, it can he hard. When you feel mentally healthier because of not drinking you feel the urge to celebrate and party. You have to resist that urge.

I wish alcohol made me feel good, even for a little while, but I don't digest food well and alcohol makes me feel ill and bad from the onset and then just makes me black out. Food that I am intolerant of also does that to me. Hell, even the food that I believe to be safe can drop me in a hurry. I hate when ingredients change.
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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:38 AM)
Devious0ne  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:28 AM)
I'm just horrible with money, always have been. My mom helped out when she could, my dad not so much. I recently lost my mom, and yeah I admit it's entirely my fault and own stupidity that I didn't learn how to budget better when I was younger. And being an alcoholic doesn't help, I've tried quitting and it's just so damn hard.. I want to get help to overcome it, but again cost money. I have a friend I'm talking to about my issue, he's a huge supporter.

I'll get to where I need to be, in honor of my mom.. it's going to be hard, it won't be easy, I have a battle ahead of me and I'll do the best that I can.

Alcohol is a trap. It makes you feel good for a few hours but the hangover makes you feel terrible for days. So I didn't see it as quitting drinking but as quitting having hangovers.

But I agree, it can he hard. When you feel mentally healthier because of not drinking you feel the urge to celebrate and party. You have to resist that urge.

100%

I drink out of boredom, it's fun for a few hours and I feel great doing so but it absolutely drains me of my energy. It affects me at work, personal life. I'm always tired, I wake up late and get to work a bit late.. then I get to work and I'm just drained, I'm tired and have no energy. I come home from work and just hit the recliner where I drift in and out of sleep until about 6:30 when I start drinking again. I literally have no life. It sucks.
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Devious0ne  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:45 AM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:38 AM)
Alcohol is a trap. It makes you feel good for a few hours but the hangover makes you feel terrible for days. So I didn't see it as quitting drinking but as quitting having hangovers.

But I agree, it can he hard. When you feel mentally healthier because of not drinking you feel the urge to celebrate and party. You have to resist that urge.

100%

I drink out of boredom, it's fun for a few hours and I feel great doing so but it absolutely drains me of my energy. It affects me at work, personal life. I'm always tired, I wake up late and get to work a bit late.. then I get to work and I'm just drained, I'm tired and have no energy. I come home from work and just hit the recliner where I drift in and out of sleep until about 6:30 when I start drinking again. I literally have no life. It sucks.

The trick is changing habits. The money I used to buy booze I now use to buy me a coffee or ice cream downtown. It gives a sense of accomplishment if instead of having a hangover you're feeling not hangover and spending the money more wisely. And feel more normal.

You can do it.

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Devious0ne  Wrote: (11-19-2019 06:43 AM)
My thread about only having $300 to get by for the next week and a half was closed, but I'm thankful that the MOD's didn't delete it. I understand and respect that they thought it was a bait thread, and I wish that was the case, but it's not. I'm thankful it was only closed and not deleted because many of you did give valuable feedback that I want to keep, suggestions to follow and help me out in the future so that I'm not in the position that I am in now. So thank you to those that did provide suggestions and ways to cut back, I know I need to make some serious life choice decisions and I'm trying to get on a better path.. it's hard, so damn hard and I wish there was a simple solution. But there's not, so I'm trying to get by just one day at a time.

$300 a month :) That doesn't include a few large annual or semi annual payments that total about $2200. Divide that in and add it to the $300/month and you get my budget. And no food stamps or nothing from gubmint.

How - essentially by stopping LIVING ... not physical death but close to it as you pretty well get to go nowhere and to do nothing outside the property.
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Pay close attention to how much better you feel the next morning when you haven't been drinking. Compliment yourself with how much better you feel. Implement a personal reward system -> Spend the money you save on booze on little things that improve your house.

And don't fool yourself that one drink isn't a problem. For people like us one drink IS a problem.

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RE: Just some thoughts, and to say thanks
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:38 AM)
Devious0ne  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:28 AM)
I'm just horrible with money, always have been. My mom helped out when she could, my dad not so much. I recently lost my mom, and yeah I admit it's entirely my fault and own stupidity that I didn't learn how to budget better when I was younger. And being an alcoholic doesn't help, I've tried quitting and it's just so damn hard.. I want to get help to overcome it, but again cost money. I have a friend I'm talking to about my issue, he's a huge supporter.

I'll get to where I need to be, in honor of my mom.. it's going to be hard, it won't be easy, I have a battle ahead of me and I'll do the best that I can.

Alcohol is a trap. It makes you feel good for a few hours but the hangover makes you feel terrible for days. So I didn't see it as quitting drinking but as quitting having hangovers.

But I agree, it can he hard. When you feel mentally healthier because of not drinking you feel the urge to celebrate and party. You have to resist that urge.


Alcohol is a trap if you abuse it. It's easy to abuse, yes.

Many of us drink regularly and we don't get wasted and don't get hangovers, because we practice restraint and understand moderation. It's a fine line, for sure, but it can be done.
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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 08:05 AM)
Pay close attention to how much better you feel the next morning when you haven't been drinking. Compliment yourself with how much better you feel. Implement a personal reward system -> Spend the money you save on booze on little things that improve your house.

And don't fool yourself that one drink isn't a problem. For people like us one drink IS a problem.

That's the crazy thing, about a year ago I went about a month without drinking and honestly I felt better than I have in years. I had more energy, felt good, I was automatically waking up at 6AM feeling great, not groggy and hungover. It took a week or so, but got to a point I could lay down at 11:00 and by 11:30 I was asleep and I slept through the night! I remember how great all that was, and I need to focus on that going forward.

I want that back, and so much more. I have goals I want to achieve, I just need to get past this stupid drinking crap and get back into exercising.
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Some how, some way, I'll get to a better spot.

I'm going to bed, my goal is to not drink tomorrow night... got to figure out my finances as I'm not sure I have any money left at this point... thought I was going to have $300, but doesn't seem that way. I've got some things to figure out tomorrow.
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Thank you to everyone who responded to not only this post, but my other with your kind words, suggestions and support. I truly mean it when I say, I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:38 AM)
Alcohol is a trap. It makes you feel good for a few hours but the hangover makes you feel terrible for days. So I didn't see it as quitting drinking but as quitting having hangovers.

But I agree, it can he hard. When you feel mentally healthier because of not drinking you feel the urge to celebrate and party. You have to resist that urge.


Alcohol is a trap if you abuse it. It's easy to abuse, yes.

Many of us drink regularly and we don't get wasted and don't get hangovers, because we practice restraint and understand moderation. It's a fine line, for sure, but it can be done.

I can't do it. The restraint goes out the window after that first drink. Because it feels too damn good at that moment. I had to learn to cherish not feeling hangover. Learn to look forward to buying myself small things.

Always have been jealous of people who can keep it to 1 or 2 drinks, for me those 1 or 2 drinks act like a trigger for a massive drinking binge.

Monday mornings now feel like an accomplishment and no longer as me hating the world because I feel awfully hangover.

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LunaC  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:20 AM)
Where I land. I did it for almost a decade straight often with far less than $300. It can be done.
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I ask family and friends to freeze their left overs for me. And at the end of the month I sometimes have to do some bread only days (no warm meal). Then when you can buy normal food again, it tastes so much better than it normally would.

I have a good life, am not complaining.

When I couldn't stomach ramen any more peanut butter and jelly was my holy grail meal. Cheap

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Once I hadn't had a shower in almost 2 weeks while homeless. When I finally got one I found my faith in the world. One of the most powerful moments of my life. For many reasons. But the end result was the best shower of my life.

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Devious0ne  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:35 AM)
To be honest, the need for food and gas isn't that big of an issue. I could literally eat cheese sandwiches for days on end and be fine. The real problem is, obviously, my alcoholism. I need to overcome it, and maybe this is how it needs to happen is hitting rock bottom financially. I'm trying to not look at it as 10 days, but rather just one day at a time. And again, to those who responded in my other thread and gave suggestions... I truly appreciate it. Links were posted to items to help, and I've bookmarked those. Especially that device that uses water to cook food, that looks awesome and when I can get my finances under control, I plan on buying that so I can start making stuff at home.

I am going to say this honestly, because I really don't believe in Alcoholism.

I know there are physical withdraws, but that is true of caffeine and sugar too.

I do not agree with the concept of "Addictive Personality", because we all have the power of choice, and it really comes down to will power.

I like to drink. I like Beer. I like Sake. I like Wine. I like Vodka. I like Gin. I like Bourbon. I like Single Malt Scotch. I like Irish Whiskey. I like Sambuca. I like Anejo Tequila. I like Rum. There are very few alcoholic beverages I will turn down if offered...when I want to drink. And that is the kicker. I have to want to have a drink. I can go to a bar and drink Tonic Water for 4 hours and not miss drinking.

However, if you are young, and otherwise physically healthy, most withdrawal symptoms can be mitigated with water.

If you really want to cure yourself, you need to first ween yourself off your physical cravings, but more importantly, you need to develop your self control. Some times, that is as simple as limiting yourself to 1 drink a day.

Abstinence, or quitting all together is not a solution. You would simply be exchanging one "addiction" for another. Abstinence is just as bad, because it prevents you from exercising self control.

The alternative is exchanging a healthy substitute. You want to drink because you are depressed or bored. So, instead of drinking, you do a physical activity like taking a short jog or walk.
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