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BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
UnAcceptance
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RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
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Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:07 PM)
UnAcceptance  Wrote: (11-19-2019 06:58 PM)
Why get hostile and call someone an ass when you are clearly wrong?
Did Sadiq brainwash you that well?
Yeah, apparently.

He-man is not from the UK.

You need to stop with that accusation.

We don't give out IP information but any mod can confirm He-man is from the US.

Stop it. That's not a request.

Well, I HEARD that he was!
Hearsay is better than evidence!
Just ask him!
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Post: #32
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
AWH, The SPIES are Being Excluded From Meetings and Foreign Affairs!
And No One USES Vindman or Williams AnyMore.
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Post: #33
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
PuddyCat  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:24 PM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:07 PM)
He-man is not from the UK.

You need to stop with that accusation.

We don't give out IP information but any mod can confirm He-man is from the US.

Stop it. That's not a request.

Pity, I'd ask him to half/half with me on a chicken vindaloo Kkqqcpdh

I'll have to ask Spiddy now Ehrppojg

Next time I travel to the UK we can get a curry but I do not eat chicken. Thanks!

I love London and would love to visit Manchester.

Cheers

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Post: #34
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
He Man  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:31 PM)
PuddyCat  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:24 PM)
Pity, I'd ask him to half/half with me on a chicken vindaloo Kkqqcpdh

I'll have to ask Spiddy now Ehrppojg

Next time I travel to the UK we can get a curry but I do not eat chicken. Thanks!

I love London and would love to visit Manchester.

Cheers

Oh there's a wide selection of foods, super fiery mouth watering hot spicy to medium or mild. Smileyhungry

If you choose Manchester, do not forget to hide your wallet. whistling

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Post: #35
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
The DEMOCRATS seem to Be THROWING a HUGE Temper Tantrum
over being Excluded FROM Foreign Affairs.

TRUMP is Commander and Chief, Over all Military!
And All Government, He is the President.
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Post: #36
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
UnAcceptance  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:29 PM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:07 PM)
He-man is not from the UK.

You need to stop with that accusation.

We don't give out IP information but any mod can confirm He-man is from the US.

Stop it. That's not a request.

Well, I HEARD that he was!
Hearsay is better than evidence!
Just ask him!
http://www.rawstory.com

I have told you repeatedly and politely that I was born and raised in the us and to stop lying about me.

You continue to do it non stop, it gets old and makes LOP members and guests tend to believe your lies when you post them constantly. That is pesting and personal attacks, I think I have asked you 30 or more times to stop it. You are lying again when you say your lies about what you "heard".

Just stop the BS. I like you posting in my threads when you are not a lying idiot. We disagree but you make some good points when you are not flustered.

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Post: #37
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:07 PM)
UnAcceptance  Wrote: (11-19-2019 06:58 PM)
Why get hostile and call someone an ass when you are clearly wrong?
Did Sadiq brainwash you that well?
Yeah, apparently.

He-man is not from the UK.

You need to stop with that accusation.

We don't give out IP information but any mod can confirm He-man is from the US.

Stop it. That's not a request.

No you can only confirm the IP information associated with He-man's account is from the US. There is no way for you to say with anymore than that with any certainty. For all LOP know's he could be BORIS stirring up political division in the US. After all that is his M.O.
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RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
The Biggest Bombshells In Vindman’s Impeachment Testimony

"The National Security Council’s Ukraine expert told House investigators last month that a U.S. ambassador explicitly brought up investigating the Bidens in a July 10 meeting with Ukrainian officials and that the ambassador said that the request had been coordinated with White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney.

The meeting is key to the House’s impeachment investigation, and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman’s account of that day is one of several revelations from his closed door testimony. The House committees leading the impeachment probe released the transcript on Friday.

Here are the biggest bombshells in Vindman’s testimony:

When confronted about the investigation demand, Sondland said it had been coordinated with Mulvaney.
Vindman recounted a key July 10 episode in the White House where Sondland brought up in front of visiting Ukrainian officials the request for the investigations. When Vindman told Sondland that the comments were “inappropriate,” Sondland said that the ask had been coordinated with White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney.

Rough transcript of the Zelensky call left out Trump comment about Crowdstrike theory
It was already reported that Vindman told investigators that Zelensky’s explicit reference of Burisma was left out of the rough transcript, despite Vindman’s efforts to add it in. Per Vindman’s testimony, Trump also made an additional comment about the Crowdstrike theory that was not included in public transcript. Where the ellipsis is in the public transcript here: “they say Crowdstrike…,” according to Vindman, Trump added, “they say you have it.” He couldn’t recall what was said in the ellipse shortly after that remark, but said that not every ellipse in the public record omitted a comment Trump actually made.

Sondland mentioned the “Bidens” specifically in his July 10 investigation comments to the Ukrainians.
When Ukrainian officials were visiting the White House on July 10, Sondland explicitly referenced the “Bidens” when discussing the request for Ukraine to open certain investigations, according to Vindman’s “best recollection.” Sondland made the remark in the White House ward room, where the group had gone for a debriefing after a larger meeting with National Security Advisor John Bolton."

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/read-...er-vindman

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Post: #39
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:37 PM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:07 PM)
He-man is not from the UK.

You need to stop with that accusation.

We don't give out IP information but any mod can confirm He-man is from the US.

Stop it. That's not a request.

No you can only confirm the IP information associated with He-man's account is from the US. There is no way for you to say with anymore than that with any certainty. For all LOP know's he could be BORIS stirring up political division in the US. After all that is his M.O.
Are You Insinuating HeMan Logs onto a Virtual Desktop
associated with a University VPN to Post his comments?
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Post: #40
RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:37 PM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:07 PM)
He-man is not from the UK.

You need to stop with that accusation.

We don't give out IP information but any mod can confirm He-man is from the US.

Stop it. That's not a request.

No you can only confirm the IP information associated with He-man's account is from the US. There is no way for you to say with anymore than that with any certainty. For all LOP know's he could be BORIS stirring up political division in the US. After all that is his M.O.

No not at all. I post often against Putin and Russian autocracy, Russian human rights abuse, Russian intelligence/Putin ordered murder of journalists, and murder by poisoning of former intelligence officers living in the UK and other nations and Russian international money laundering and vast criminal corruptions, criminal conspiracies.

I hate what Putin has done to Russia and his usurpation of the measure of democracy that was growing in Russia after the end of the cold war. Now Russia has militarily attacked Georgia and Ukraine, militarily annexing a huge portion of Ukraine when their tanks rolled into Crimea and when they sent Russian military paratroopers into Eastern Ukraine without their uniforms to make it appear they were Ukrainians instead of it being another military attack on Russia neighbor.

I have been one of the most consistent posters calling out Russian corruption, anti-democratic actions and their attempts to corrupt the Brexit vote in the US and in assisting their puppet Trump to get elected in the US.

I would not be posting like that if I was secretly supportive of Russian interests. So stop pushing BS. Thanks.

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Post: #41
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Яudis  Wrote: (11-19-2019 06:29 PM)
All Second Hand Information will be THROWN Out of a Senate Trial.
Original Source Information will be needed or all This is a HUGE Waste
of time and money!


How about Trump’s own first hand confession to felony extortion and/or bribery?

You can’t really argue it’s all made up or whatever when the defendant said “I’m guilty” on National TV.

Besides...how much more “firsthand” can you get than the half dozen people who were ON THE CALL??
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RE: BREAKING: Smoking Gun on fire: live impeachment hearing discussion
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:52 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (11-19-2019 06:29 PM)
All Second Hand Information will be THROWN Out of a Senate Trial.
Original Source Information will be needed or all This is a HUGE Waste
of time and money!


How about Trump’s own first hand confession to felony extortion and/or bribery?
You can’t really argue it’s all made up or whatever when the defendant said “I’m guilty” on National TV.

Besides...how much more “firsthand” can you get than the half dozen people who were ON THE CALL??
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Wild Stallion  Wrote: (11-19-2019 07:28 PM)
the fact remains that requesting a foreign government to investigate a crime is not an impeachable offense, even if the request was for quid pro quo that's still not an impeachable offense because it's not a crime

That ^ is not true at all. You uninformed opinions are not important when they disagree with people with much more knowledge, who state otherwise.

THE ACTUAL LAWS TRUMP HAS BROKEN, JUST WITH THE UKRAINE AND CHINA AFFAIRS, COULD LAND HIM 10 YEARS IN PRISON

"IN THE FACE of an overwhelming pile of evidence suggesting that President Donald Trump pressured a foreign country to damage a political rival, most Republicans have chosen either to remain silent or to deny outright that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Others have taken a more sophisticated route: Concede his wrongdoing, but argue that it’s not impeachable.

“Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea,” wrote Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel recently in The Daily Caller. But, they add importantly, that doesn’t mean his error rises to the level of an impeachable offense.

All the President’s Crimes
They are, however, indictable. A variety of felony criminal statutes plainly implicate Trump’s behavior, and come with lengthy prison sentences — the types of sentences doled out for high crimes, to say nothing of misdemeanors. Indeed, many of them are straightforward. Altogether, if the impeachment inquiry is limited simply to Trump’s pressure on Ukraine, the charges could amount to more than 10 years in prison.

Take 18 U.S. Code § 872: “Extortion by officers or employees of the United States.” It’s not hard to grasp:

“Whoever, being an officer, or employee of the United States or any department or agency thereof, or representing himself to be or assuming to act as such, under color or pretense of office or employment commits or attempts an act of extortion, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”


The only question, here, is the definition of extortion. The law describes it as “the extraction of anything of value from another person by threatening or placing that person in fear of injury to any person or kidnapping of any person.” Was the Ukrainian president, or any other person, put in “fear of injury” by Trump’s move? As Trump’s envoys made clear in their since-disclosed text messages, Ukraine’s cooperation in the investigation of Joe and Hunter Biden was driven by the promise of a White House visit for President Volodymyr Zelensky and the threat of withholding military aid. That’s not just wrong, as Carlson and Patel rightly acknowledge, it’s also a felony, as the president and other Ukrainians no doubt had “fear of injury.”

Attorney General William Barr’s Department of Justice has declined to press charges against Trump, though the House of Representatives is pushing forward with its impeachment inquiry. In the meantime, Trump has said that he will refuse to cooperate with lawful subpoenas — itself a prima facie violation of 2 U.S. Code § 192, “Refusal of witness to testify or produce papers,” punishable by a year in prison.


Coercing his deputies into joining in the conspiracy would also runs afoul of the law. “As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign,” Bill Taylor, the top American diplomat in Ukraine, reiterated in a text message to Trump official Gordon Sondland, strongly suggesting he was pursuing the strategy against his own wishes.

If Taylor felt coerced into helping with “a political campaign,” that implicates 18 U.S. Code § 610, which covers that crime rather clearly under the title: “Coercion of political activity.”

The law reads: “It shall be unlawful for any person to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, or attempt to intimidate, threaten, command, or coerce, any employee of the Federal Government … to engage in … any political activity.” The sentence caps at three years.

It’s also illegal, according to 18 U.S. Code § 595, when a government official, “in connection with any activity which is financed in whole or in part by loans or grants made by the United States, or any department or agency thereof, uses his official authority for the purpose of interfering with, or affecting, the nomination or the election of any candidate for the office of President.” That statute could add another year to the sentence.

Prosecutors, in trying to pressure defendants into a plea bargain, often engage in what’s known as “stacking,” where they find every conceivable charge and stack them to the ceiling, threatening decades in prison if the defendant contests all the charges. A prosecutor who wanted to stack charges against Trump could ding him for 18 U.S. Code § 607, “Place of solicitation,” and 52 U.S. Code § 30121, “Contributions and donations by foreign nationals.” Essentially, it’s illegal to solicit contributions to your presidential campaign from the Oval Office and illegal to solicit from foreign nationals no matter where you do it from: “It shall be unlawful for an individual who is an officer or employee of the Federal Government, including the President … to solicit or receive a donation of money or other thing of value in connection with a Federal, State, or local election, while in any room or building occupied in the discharge of official duties by an officer or employee of the United States, from any person.”

That’s another three years."


https://theintercept.com/2019/10/10/trump-crimes-law/

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