News
news New biometric database can identify people through scars, tattoos and even their voice
news Cattle Are Being Mutilated And Killed In Eastern Oregon
news Insider Interview on Skinwalker Ranch History
news Squirrels Can Speak Bird
news US Navy pilot says mystery ‘dark mass’ emerged from ocean and swallowed torpedo
news Cognitive scientist says we see things as we need to, rather than as they are.
news A Movie You Control With Your Mind
news Radioactive Cloud That Blanketed Europe Traced to Russian Nuclear Facility
news Organization Says It’s Obtained ‘Exotic’ Metals Unknown to Science
news The frightening supernatural story of the Black Bird of Chernobyl
news Recent UFO Encounters With Navy Pilots Occurred Constantly Across Multiple Squadrons


Username:
Password: or Register
 
Thread Rating:
  • 2 Vote(s) - 2 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

Human beings are the fallen angels
PioneerSpirit
Registered User
User ID: 503107
02-03-2020 12:11 AM

Posts: 16,962




Post: #16
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
Advertisement
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-02-2020 08:13 PM)
2 Timothy
3:16 All Scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

[Image: 400px-Bible_cycle.jpg]

The bible says - do not cut your beard a certain way or you go to hell.
Yeah ... I'm sure that the God Who made the entire universe cares
how a person cuts his beard. chuckle

Like I said, some of it is very spiritual and other parts are obviously just cultural norms that people claimed were 'laws of God' ... but really were not.

"They notice that you notice" - Mothman Prophecies doomed

A tradition cannot make an historical claim and then refuse to have it evaluated by history
Quote this message in a reply
Justin Case
Registered User
User ID: 525315
02-03-2020 02:01 AM

Posts: 4,242




Post: #17
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-23-2020 01:41 AM)
Human beings are the fallen angels:
There are no "fallen angels." Psychology / psychiatry were not known millennia ago, and stories were made up to explain evil.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


[Image: phpxT0aqV.gif]
Quote this message in a reply
A Freeman
Registered User
User ID: 533379
02-03-2020 02:09 AM

Posts: 591




Post: #18
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).
Quote this message in a reply
A Freeman
Registered User
User ID: 533379
02-03-2020 02:28 AM

Posts: 591




Post: #19
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
PioneerSpirit  Wrote: (02-02-2020 05:58 PM)
A Freeman  Wrote: (02-02-2020 03:38 PM)
What another dose of cognitive dissonance from the resident pyscho-babbling Roman Catholic Jesuit tool.

Jptdknpa Says the proven liar who follows a fake reincarnated Jesus in the UK who rewrites the bible to fit his cult agenda.

Everything I just said is true. It's too bad that the fake reincarnated Jesus old fart in the uk - jonathan hill - has your brain locked up in a tin box, otherwise you would be able to think clearly.

Prove what I said is wrong.
Go ahead. Give it a try.
You can't. chuckle

All of the nonsense you just posted is a lie, and your childish tactics of trying to argue up is down and black is white and the truth is somehow a lie, and vice-versa will NEVER work. You're not fooling anybody but yourself.

You've already been proven to be in error, for your own benefit, and choose to ignore it because you have no love for the truth (nor any idea what truth is).

2 Peter 1:21 For the Prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spoke [as they were] moved by the Holy Spirit.

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, THAT shall he also reap.

The war that began in heaven 6000+ years ago is still going on today, here on Earth, with Satan and his children still fighting against God and His Messengers/(Adopted) Children.

We are the children of whom we choose to obey.
Quote this message in a reply
Justin Case
Registered User
User ID: 525315
02-03-2020 02:40 AM

Posts: 4,242




Post: #20
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
Justin Case  Wrote: (02-03-2020 02:01 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-23-2020 01:41 AM)
Human beings are the fallen angels:
There are no "fallen angels." Psychology / psychiatry were not known millennia ago, and stories were made up to explain evil.

And this below - is just ONE of those stories. They are traceable back to Egypt, and they are ALL DIFFERENT.

A Freeman  Wrote: (02-03-2020 02:09 AM)
Revelation 12:7-9
12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon (Lucifer); and the dragon fought and his angels,
12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out to the Earth, and his angels (you - Luke 9:55) were cast out with him (Matthew 25:41).

Take a look here for a rundown of different approaches to this topic. The idea is, truth doesn't change ... so why are these stories all different? Because they are all made up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


[Image: phpxT0aqV.gif]
(This post was last modified: 02-03-2020 03:09 AM by Justin Case.) Quote this message in a reply
A Freeman
Registered User
User ID: 533411
02-03-2020 09:11 PM

Posts: 591




Post: #21
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
There's nothing in the Wikipedia article you posted that traces the story from Revelation 12:7-9 back to Egypt. The Wikipedia just an article about demons in general.

Revelation 12:7-9 was written over 1500 years after Egypt was reduced to a remnant of what it was as the world's lone superpower. And the passage gives us the answer to the age-old question of why we are here.

Of course, and very interestingly, it's the exact same story we're told in Genesis 1:6-8, only in Genesis the story is delivered in CODE.

Secret "code" word: water (defined in Rev. 17:15 and in Isa. 17:12-13). Please let me know if you can't work it out on your own from there.

If you can actually find something telling a similar story about the real reason for human life on planet Earth, then please share it. Particularly if if can be traced back to Egypt.
Quote this message in a reply
Justin Case
Registered User
User ID: 525315
02-03-2020 09:59 PM

Posts: 4,242




Post: #22
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
The article gives a background idea of this "spiritual evil" picture, and if people want to look into the idea historically, they can do it themselves (constructivism) rather than sit there and be fed all the alleged answers (classical teaching).

The book of Revelation was debunked 2000 years ago ... you want to believe in code words - feel free.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


[Image: phpxT0aqV.gif]
Quote this message in a reply
Treebeard
Registered User
User ID: 520205
02-04-2020 02:13 AM

Posts: 2,247




Post: #23
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-01-2020 04:31 AM)
Treebeard - Do you allow men to tell you what you may or may not believe in?

That would be slavery and making men into false gods (the sin of Idolatry).

Sinful men.

Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. Whatever you declare loosed shall be loosed in heaven, and what bound shall be bound in heaven, feed my sheep.

Need a starter book?
https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/hi...rly-church
(This post was last modified: 02-04-2020 02:17 AM by Treebeard.) Quote this message in a reply
A Freeman
Registered User
User ID: 533467
02-04-2020 02:25 AM

Posts: 591




Post: #24
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
Justin Case  Wrote: (02-03-2020 09:59 PM)
The article gives a background idea of this "spiritual evil" picture, and if people want to look into the idea historically, they can do it themselves (constructivism) rather than sit there and be fed all the alleged answers (classical teaching).

The book of Revelation was debunked 2000 years ago ... you want to believe in code words - feel free.

You keep making baseless claims without any evidence and as if you're some sort of authority, while claiming to promote constructivism.

Do you not see you're contradicting yourself?
Quote this message in a reply
Justin Case
Registered User
User ID: 525315
02-04-2020 04:43 AM

Posts: 4,242




Post: #25
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
A Freeman  Wrote: (02-04-2020 02:25 AM)
Justin Case  Wrote: (02-03-2020 09:59 PM)
The article gives a background idea of this "spiritual evil" picture, and if people want to look into the idea historically, they can do it themselves (constructivism) rather than sit there and be fed all the alleged answers (classical teaching).

The book of Revelation was debunked 2000 years ago ... you want to believe in code words - feel free.

You keep making baseless claims without any evidence and as if you're some sort of authority, while claiming to promote constructivism.

Do you not see you're contradicting yourself?

Look - Jesus failed, and so - NOTHING ELSE in that "book" can be trusted. Period.

It's really easy to see if you stop barking.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


[Image: phpxT0aqV.gif]
Quote this message in a reply
A Freeman
Registered User
User ID: 533522
02-04-2020 12:36 PM

Posts: 591




Post: #26
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
Justin Case  Wrote: (02-04-2020 04:43 AM)
A Freeman  Wrote: (02-04-2020 02:25 AM)
You keep making baseless claims without any evidence and as if you're some sort of authority, while claiming to promote constructivism.

Do you not see you're contradicting yourself?

Look - Jesus failed, and so - NOTHING ELSE in that "book" can be trusted. Period.

It's really easy to see if you stop barking.

You've already been proven to be WRONG multiple times, as ALL of your assumptions are without merit and are obviously in error.

Perhaps you feel that if you repeat that LIE often enough you can convince yourself of that nonsense? You're certainly not going to con anyone else into believing it.

Jesus fulfilled over 300 Old Covenant/Testament prophecies alone. The odds of any one man fulfilling ALL of those prophecies is infinitesimal, making it an absolute mathematical certainty that the Bible is of Extra-Terrestrial origin and can be trusted because it can predict FUTURE events with shocking precision.

For reference, the odds of any one man fulfilling even 48 of those prophecies is 10^157 (1 with 157 zeros after it).

That alone should clue you in to the obvious FACT that it's YOU that have FAILED to understand what you're reading NOT Christ, Who has fulfilled hundreds of prophecies with such accuracy and certainty that only a fool would look at that track record and think the rest of the prophecies won't likewise be fulfilled in exact and minute detail.

ALL of the verses you cite about Christ's Second Coming being "soon" or Him "coming quickly" are in the context of ETERNAL TIME.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, BE NOT IGNORANT OF THIS ONE THING, that one day [is] with The Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the "earth" and of the "sea"! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (6,000 years).

If 6000 years is a "short time" than 2000 years is likewise a "short time" in eternity. The difficulty is humans only have the facility to see the world through their human eyes, and think that living for 70-80 years is a long time, when it is but a vapour.

James 4:14 Whereas ye know not what [shall be] on the morrow. For what [is] your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away.

The Bible is REPLETE with references to reincarnation, but you ignore all of those references as well, because you arrogantly think know better than our Creator, applying your circular reasoning that the Bible can't be true after you've removed all of the explanations given in it about reincarnation and destroying one's ego, which is the gate-keeper of the mind.

The irony is the very thing the Bible warns us we MUST overcome and destroy to be able to understand the Bible - the ego "self" - is what's keeping you from "seeing" your obvious error.

Arrogance masks one's ignorance, even the ignorance of one's own arrogance. That should hopefully illustrate just how dangerous it really is.

When Christ said that some of His Disciples would not taste "death" before they saw Him again, He was OBVIOUSLY referring to the "death" of the "self". There are NUMEROUS references to overcoming and crucifying the "self" which you ignore, e.g. Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Gal. 2:20, Rev. 2:7, 11, 17, 26, Rev. 3:5, 12, 21.

Furthermore, you ignore ALL of the other available evidence AND the context in which it's delivered, so that you can continue regurgitating your LIE. Do you really think Christ gave His Followers the assignment to preach the Gospel to ALL nations and then expected them to have that task completed in a few years? How ridiculous!

It's taken almost 2000 years for the Bible to reach all nations, which is yet another clue as to how devoid of reason your interpretation of the historical text we call the Bible really is.

Christ prophesied that the Temple (Herod's Temple, rebuilt over Solomon's Temple) would be utterly destroyed, which occurred in 70 A.D. He described the end-times in great detail, including there being wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes in diverse places, as well as the very specific event of the "fig-tree" (Jews) putting forth new shoots in the land of Israel, which didn't occur until 1948. Of course you ignore all of this too, because it exposes how ignorant your viewpoint really is.

We then have the FACT that the Bible was kept under lock and key by the very people that murdered Jesus and destroyed the Temple - the Roman Empire, who transformed themselves into the Roman Church so they could complete their conquest of the world through their evil organized religion. And you scoff at the idea the Bible was "coded", to keep spiritually blind idiots from interfering with its message, even after being provided overwhelming evidence proving that too.

How could the Gospel message possibly reach all nations until the Bible - which contains that Gospel/Good News Message - was delivered to all nations?

All of this is likewise proof that we are indeed the very same Souls/spirit-Beings who fought with Satan AGAINST our Creator in the coup attempt that took place in Heaven a short time ago (6000 years).

Anyone who IGNORES all of the evidence and then thinks they can render a rational judgment is deluding themselves. Period.

And that's exactly what you're doing, whether you realize it or not. And sadly, it's the ego that blinds you to that very simple truth. The same ego the Bible - which you believe to be a fantasy - has warned us MUST be destroyed, because the ego is the enemy of truth.

Learn to destroy your ego or it will destroy you.

This is shared in friendship, to benefit you and anyone else who may be reading this, so please do NOT let your ego take it personally or be offended by it.
Quote this message in a reply
Justin Case
Registered User
User ID: 525315
02-04-2020 04:54 PM

Posts: 4,242




Post: #27
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
A Freeman  Wrote: (02-04-2020 12:36 PM)
Learn to destroy your ego or it will destroy you.

It has nothing to do with ego ... it's all about the data. There are a lot of "things" said in every religious text on the planet, and these people all believe (like you) that their approach is the correct one, and everyone else is wrong.

The text in this case is explicit regarding WHEN Jesus was supposed to return, and, he failed. Everything else is now out the window.

Christianity was nothing more than a build on Zoroaster's end times picture, and since he failed, every connection to it failed as well.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


[Image: phpxT0aqV.gif]
Quote this message in a reply
A Freeman
Registered User
User ID: 533576
02-05-2020 01:24 AM

Posts: 591




Post: #28
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
Justin Case  Wrote: (02-04-2020 04:54 PM)
A Freeman  Wrote: (02-04-2020 12:36 PM)
Learn to destroy your ego or it will destroy you.

It has nothing to do with ego ... it's all about the data. There are a lot of "things" said in every religious text on the planet, and these people all believe (like you) that their approach is the correct one, and everyone else is wrong.

The text in this case is explicit regarding WHEN Jesus was supposed to return, and, he failed. Everything else is now out the window.

Christianity was nothing more than a build on Zoroaster's end times picture, and since he failed, every connection to it failed as well.

Who are you trying to convince of that nonsense? Yourself perhaps?

It's your understanding that's failed. The only thing that keeps you from "seeing" that is the ego that's conned you into thinking it doesn't exist.
Quote this message in a reply
Justin Case
Registered User
User ID: 525315
02-05-2020 01:31 AM

Posts: 4,242




Post: #29
RE: Human beings are the fallen angels
A Freeman  Wrote: (02-05-2020 01:24 AM)
Justin Case  Wrote: (02-04-2020 04:54 PM)
It has nothing to do with ego ... it's all about the data. There are a lot of "things" said in every religious text on the planet, and these people all believe (like you) that their approach is the correct one, and everyone else is wrong.

The text in this case is explicit regarding WHEN Jesus was supposed to return, and, he failed. Everything else is now out the window.

Christianity was nothing more than a build on Zoroaster's end times picture, and since he failed, every connection to it failed as well.

Who are you trying to convince of that nonsense? Yourself perhaps?

It's your understanding that's failed. The only thing that keeps you from "seeing" that is the ego that's conned you into thinking it doesn't exist.

Actually, that picture is the other way around.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


[Image: phpxT0aqV.gif]
Quote this message in a reply








Contact UsConspiracy Forum. No reg. required! Return to TopReturn to ContentRSS Syndication