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How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
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Whe you speak, without thought, the truth, then things align to your beliefs.

What is YOUR truth, is what leads you.


Legally.
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04-17-2017 06:27 PM

 



Post: #17
RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:31 PM)
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:18 PM)
That's an easy one to answer, Jim. The existence of a "citizen", legal or otherwise, is not contingent on your rather outrè definitions of the Uniform Commercial Code or your misreading of Black's or anything else; it is based on what the courts say based on their power as outlined in the Constitution and other things like Marbury v Madison (1803).

I can prove I am a citizen by virtue of my birth certificate and United States Passport, which is what everyone with a lick of sense accepts. Your opinions on such, like the beliefs of some of the more arcane views of things like all-caps titles or yellow fringes on the American Flag, simply don't count.

Sorry.

I was sorry too when I thought like you.

How is it honourable or compassionate to deny People their own ability to give or not give consent? You really think the courts decide for People if they are subject to a man made jurisdiction or not? How do the courts have any authority to make decisions for People if People have not given their explicit consent for that to be the case?

Because if what you say is true then we must live in a military martial law war jurisdiction where there is no honour or law because a bunch of assholes are forcing their will on People without the People's consent. Of course anyone with more than half a working brian knows differently.

Your birth certificate and passport are not bonding in a lawful sense, so while they do prove your Canadian "citizenship", they do not prove your legal CITIZENSHIP OF CANADA, and yes it does mean something different when all caps are used. No one would try to disprove you being a "citizen" of Canada, what I am pointing out is that you have no real evidence you are a CITIZEN OF CANADA which is the legal citizenry or a corporation compared to the Equity Law citizenry of a human being.

Maybe you should actually read the fine print of the legal statutes you hold so dear. Because they all reveal the truth at some point or another, but if you aren't well versed in the spiritual aspect of our Trust Law relationship with God then it doesn't surprise me why you misinterpret so much.

Have you ever read Black's Law Dictionary? No you haven't have you? Then how do you even know the definition of those words you claim to be the law? For example, the word PERSON, in legalese, means a wide variety of artificial constructs not including human beings. So if the word PERSON in legalese does not include human beings then how do any legal statutes apply to People?

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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:21 PM)
The descendants of invaders of any land cam claim citizenship if they have absolute control over military and banking system. chuckle

true
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1.) American Flag Tattooed to @SS.
2.) SSN# Also Tattooed to @SS
3.) Cardio Stent with Micro Explosive installed by TPTB w/ SSR#.
4.) Or you could just get your Birth Certificate, Drivers License, Social Security Card, Insurance Card, Credit Cards, Rental Contract or Deed to Home, Car title, Friends and Family who can verify you were BORN HERE.

I know The DHS ACTS and Simple Drivers License Renewals often Require 15 different pieces of PROOF.

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04-17-2017 06:33 PM

 



Post: #20
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The premise is ridiculous. Without each country defining citizenship through legislation and through judicial review, then no policy of immigration and asylum can exist.

Hey Goofball, nations have legal borders.

And guess what, being born in a country when your parent's are not legal immigrants aka anchor babies will probably be determined NOT to be citizens as well. The systole was designed to celebrate the new births of legal immigrants into the USA.

Not only this, but because of diplomats and military forces located in bases, Americans born in these places are also US citizens. So there is a legal process that extends beyond a nations' actual borders.

Why is it some snowflake thinks that they can skirt the Law, when every other immigrant follows the Law or do you think you are superior to law abiding immigrants? That's what it comes down to: lawlessness.
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04-17-2017 06:39 PM

 



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Agh, very thick wool over the eyes of the soul.

Growth factor, determined by, others.

Thats akin to a zombie.
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04-17-2017 06:40 PM

 



Post: #22
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Digest the Law, to give it out.

It is not bendable to your misinformed will.
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04-17-2017 06:43 PM

 



Post: #23
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A wise native once said, "There are no lines on the ground".

Mans paper has lines
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04-17-2017 06:46 PM

 



Post: #24
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Some dork decided to build a rug rig for the rats.
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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:31 PM)
Have you ever read Black's Law Dictionary? No you haven't have you? Then how do you even know the definition of those words you claim to be the law? For example, the word PERSON, in legalese, means a wide variety of artificial constructs not including human beings. So if the word PERSON in legalese does not include human beings then how do any legal statutes apply to People?

Many thanks for your learned and scholarly comments, counselor.

Per Black's Law Dictionary Free Online Legal Dictionary 2nd Ed.:

There are two types of persons, a natural person and a juridicial person.

Natural person: A human being, naturally born, versus a legally generated juridical person.

Juridical person: Entity, as a firm, that is not a single natural person, as a human being, authorized by law with duties and rights, recognized as a legal authority having a distinct identity, a legal personality. Also known as artificial person, juridical entity, juristic person, or legal person.

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and because i am hard you will not like me, but the harder i am the more you will learn!
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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
Яudis  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:30 PM)
1.) American Flag Tattooed to @SS.
2.) SSN# Also Tattooed to @SS
3.) Cardio Stent with Micro Explosive installed by TPTB w/ SSR#.
4.) Or you could just get your Birth Certificate, Drivers License, Social Security Card, Insurance Card, Credit Cards, Rental Contract or Deed to Home, Car title, Friends and Family who can verify you were BORN HERE.

Then this tattooed on the back of my neck probably makes me a Greek citizen. chuckle

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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (04-17-2017 07:03 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:30 PM)
1.) American Flag Tattooed to @SS.
2.) SSN# Also Tattooed to @SS
3.) Cardio Stent with Micro Explosive installed by TPTB w/ SSR#.
4.) Or you could just get your Birth Certificate, Drivers License, Social Security Card, Insurance Card, Credit Cards, Rental Contract or Deed to Home, Car title, Friends and Family who can verify you were BORN HERE.

Then this tattooed on the back of my neck probably makes me a Greek citizen. chuckle

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if you're with a landwhale...Jptdknpa
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https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-lawlessness.html

Quote: Question: "What does the Bible say about lawlessness?"

Answer: To be lawless is to be contrary to the law or to act without regard to the law. Laws are necessary in a sinful world (1 Timothy 1:9), and those who choose to act lawlessly further sin in the world. The word for “lawlessness” in the Bible is often translated “iniquity.” According to the Bible, the root of all lawlessness is rebellion.

First John 3:4 defines sin as lawlessness: “Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.” To commit sin is to be lawless; that is, the sinner breaks God’s law. In this way, lawlessness is a rejection of God. Satan, who models the ultimate rejection of God, will one day empower the Antichrist, called “the lawless one,” whose rise to power “will be in accordance with how Satan works” (2 Thessalonians 2:9).

Lawlessness is contrasted with righteousness in verses such as Romans 6:19, 2 Corinthians 6:14, and Hebrews 1:9. The righteous, who have the nature of Jesus Christ, hate the deeds of lawlessness. Lot, a godly man living in Sodom, “was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard” (2 Peter 2:8). The psalmist said, “I abhor the assembly of evildoers and refuse to sit with the wicked” (Psalm 26:5). Christians are to be law-abiding (1 Peter 4:15).

When a society ignores the law, lawlessness is the result, and chaos ensues. The time of the judges after Joshua’s death was marked by upheaval, oppression, and general disorder. The biblical historian puts his finger on the reason for the tumult: “In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as they saw fit” (Judges 21:25). The riot in Ephesus is a good example of lawlessness in action (Acts 19). The rioters were confused and unsure even of why they were rioting (verse 32); in their lawlessness, they were ignoring proper legal channels (verse 39) and, of course, breaking the law (verse 40).

God has a purpose for establishing human government: “to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right” (1 Peter 2:14). Rulers are God’s appointees to maintain order and promote righteousness in a civil society. “Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves” (Romans 13:2). In other words, lawlessness is condemned in Scripture.

The Bible connects man’s lawlessness and rebellion against God with his need for God’s forgiveness. In Romans 4:7, Paul (quoting Psalm 32:1) says, “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered” (ESV). God’s righteousness is imputed to us at salvation, and God forgives us of our lawlessness: “Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more” (Hebrews 10:17, quoting Jeremiah 31:34). Christ died on the cross “to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works” (Titus 2:14, ESV). Our lawless deeds resulted in Christ’s death, but God’s grace overcomes our lawless hearts.[quote]
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