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How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
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04-17-2017 07:32 PM

 



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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
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You cannot be an illegal immigrant and be a CHRISTIAN, for lawlessness is SIN.
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04-17-2017 07:35 PM

 



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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
When you see the riotous behavior of illegal immigrants, you witness their lawlessness.

A Christian must help the suffering. That means helping legal immigrants in whatever way we can. But it also means helping illegal immigrants return to their country. And perhaps follow the Law and return.
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04-17-2017 08:24 PM

 



Post: #33
RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:33 PM)
The premise is ridiculous. Without each country defining citizenship through legislation and through judicial review, then no policy of immigration and asylum can exist.

Hey Goofball, nations have legal borders.

And guess what, being born in a country when your parent's are not legal immigrants aka anchor babies will probably be determined NOT to be citizens as well. The systole was designed to celebrate the new births of legal immigrants into the USA.

Not only this, but because of diplomats and military forces located in bases, Americans born in these places are also US citizens. So there is a legal process that extends beyond a nations' actual borders.

Why is it some snowflake thinks that they can skirt the Law, when every other immigrant follows the Law or do you think you are superior to law abiding immigrants? That's what it comes down to: lawlessness.

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04-17-2017 08:34 PM

 



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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:58 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:31 PM)
Have you ever read Black's Law Dictionary? No you haven't have you? Then how do you even know the definition of those words you claim to be the law? For example, the word PERSON, in legalese, means a wide variety of artificial constructs not including human beings. So if the word PERSON in legalese does not include human beings then how do any legal statutes apply to People?

Many thanks for your learned and scholarly comments, counselor.

Per Black's Law Dictionary Free Online Legal Dictionary 2nd Ed.:

There are two types of persons, a natural person and a juridicial person.

Natural person: A human being, naturally born, versus a legally generated juridical person.

Juridical person: Entity, as a firm, that is not a single natural person, as a human being, authorized by law with duties and rights, recognized as a legal authority having a distinct identity, a legal personality. Also known as artificial person, juridical entity, juristic person, or legal person.

But... but, I thought he said that it says no human were persons? I am confused...
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04-17-2017 08:36 PM

 



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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:43 PM)
A wise native once said, "There are no lines on the ground".

Mans paper has lines

Native tribes had boundaries and territories they protected against invading tribes.

To answer the question: My tribal ID and my birth certificate prove I am a United States citizen.
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04-17-2017 08:38 PM

 



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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 07:32 PM)
You cannot be an illegal immigrant and be a CHRISTIAN, for lawlessness is SIN.

Good point. I thought Mexico was a very devoutly Catholic nation, no?
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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 07:35 PM)
When you see the riotous behavior of illegal immigrants, you witness their lawlessness.

A Christian must help the suffering. That means helping legal immigrants in whatever way we can. But it also means helping illegal immigrants return to their country. And perhaps follow the Law and return.

Well, that's all well and good, but part of the law, is the enforcement of it. To hinder that process with your well intended "good deeds", would itself be a violation of the law, and therefore a sin, because also part of the law is the duty of a citizen to report crime when they see it. So the only way to "help" them without sinning yourself, is to report them immediately upon your knowledge of their status.
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04-17-2017 08:45 PM

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Post: #38
RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:18 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:06 PM)
Because there is no such thing a legal citizen, only the illusion of one. How can any of you prove you are a legal citizen? You don't have a UCC valid two party signed contract forming a bond, you didn't swear an explicit public oath to form a bond, and on top of not having a bond with the government to prove you are a legal citizen, you don't even speak legalese because you have never read Black's Law Dictionary. If I claimed to you that I am spanish and yet could not speak one word of spanish to prove my claim, obviously you wouldn't believe such a claim, so why should anyone believe you that you are a legal citizen if you don't speak the language and don't have a bond proving your claim?

That's an easy one to answer, Jim. The existence of a "citizen", legal or otherwise, is not contingent on your rather outrè definitions of the Uniform Commercial Code or your misreading of Black's or anything else; it is based on what the courts say based on their power as outlined in the Constitution and other things like Marbury v Madison (1803).

I can prove I am a citizen by virtue of my birth certificate and United States Passport, which is what everyone with a lick of sense accepts. Your opinions on such, like the beliefs of some of the more arcane views of things like all-caps titles or yellow fringes on the American Flag, simply don't count.

Sorry.

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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 08:36 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:43 PM)
A wise native once said, "There are no lines on the ground".

Mans paper has lines

Native tribes had boundaries and territories they protected against invading tribes.

To answer the question: My tribal ID and my birth certificate prove I am a United States citizen.

Even animals have boundary "lines" that will result in an attack of the invader, once exposed. Even the birds in the skies have lines, ffs.
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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:43 PM)
A wise native once said, "There are no lines on the ground".

Mans paper has lines
That wise native one apparently never actually looked at the ground very much.
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04-17-2017 08:53 PM

 



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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 08:46 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 08:36 PM)
Native tribes had boundaries and territories they protected against invading tribes.

To answer the question: My tribal ID and my birth certificate prove I am a United States citizen.

Even animals have boundary "lines" that will result in an attack of the invader, once exposed. Even the birds in the skies have lines, ffs.

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RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (04-17-2017 06:58 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:31 PM)
Have you ever read Black's Law Dictionary? No you haven't have you? Then how do you even know the definition of those words you claim to be the law? For example, the word PERSON, in legalese, means a wide variety of artificial constructs not including human beings. So if the word PERSON in legalese does not include human beings then how do any legal statutes apply to People?

Many thanks for your learned and scholarly comments, counselor.

Per Black's Law Dictionary Free Online Legal Dictionary 2nd Ed.:

There are two types of persons, a natural person and a juridicial person.

Natural person: A human being, naturally born, versus a legally generated juridical person.

Juridical person: Entity, as a firm, that is not a single natural person, as a human being, authorized by law with duties and rights, recognized as a legal authority having a distinct identity, a legal personality. Also known as artificial person, juridical entity, juristic person, or legal person.
I guess some just don't understand that an adjective modifies the meaning of the noun it is attached to.

"Natural" is used as an adjective in this noun "Person".
"Juridical" is used as an adjective in that attachment to the noun, "Person".

This the same in both the Blacks Dictionary (which is British English) and in Webster's Dictionary (which is American English).

In most cases in modern English spelling the suffix "-al" is a sign of an adjective.

So much internet posting and so much print and official 'msm' media and many politicians run right over adjectives or drop them out completely as a form of propaganda.

People, its time to start considering in more depth the Adjectives being used and stop pretending they don't exist or are just empty words without any function or purpose.

BTW, a Family of three (father, mother, and child) is already a natural corporation, but not perhaps a juridical corporation.
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04-17-2017 09:13 PM

 



Post: #43
RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:37 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:23 PM)
Legal citizens own stock in US, Inc as represented by the Birth certificates.

The banker CEO's and jewish illuminati board members crashed it on purpose and sold their stock over a decade ago.

9-11 signified the time had come to sink the titanic all over again.

It was the greatest scam of all time, to sell Poeple's future labour as investments.

And thus why they owe us everything, and everything actually belongs to We the People, right?

the HotBox question  Wrote: (04-17-2017 05:24 PM)
No doc. So We ask, what are you?

Of the earth, or on the earth, controlled or controller (of self identity).

Either travel the road and learn your lessons or fail at life and become the road, right? There is a place in God's plan for everyOne.



Namaste dear masters. Heartflowers

So true! Everything belongs to God....but was given to mankind to take care of (which means the people). However, through trickery it was stolen by the "few" and the masses made into slaves. This is where we are today.....and dividing the land up only increased the division of the people. The people are blinded through the "slight of hand" used by the ruling tricksters!! In time....the masses will awaken....in God's timing because he is the only one who can awaken the people.
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04-17-2017 09:19 PM

 



Post: #44
RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
Don't worry, if your a vet, you have the cardio stent with gps, RFID and the micro explosive installed, they know your American and they know exactly where your at,
at all times.

Remember that couple of days you thought you lost to being drunk and on a tear.
Well, you were passed out and lost 2 days, but you weren't drunk.
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04-17-2017 09:57 PM

 



Post: #45
RE: How can anyone here prove they are a legal citizen?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2017 09:19 PM)
Don't worry, if your a vet, you have the cardio stent with gps, RFID and the micro explosive installed, they know your American and they know exactly where your at,
at all times.

Remember that couple of days you thought you lost to being drunk and on a tear.
Well, you were passed out and lost 2 days, but you weren't drunk.

I'm a vet, and if I have a cardio stent (with or without ops), I don't know when I would've gotten it installed, and neither the RFID nor the micro explosive, for that matter, have been installed in me to my knowledge.

I'm a moderate drinker, and never have I passed out from drinking in my life, let alone for two days, nor have I ever been unable to account for any lost days or even hours. What do you make of that?
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