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Will Trump fire Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller, just because he can?
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It's seeming to look that way, the more Trumps people talk about it the more likely it will happen. Scream1 Jhikpghf
These two articles are indications that Trump may do it to slow down the investigation (more obstruction of justice) and to create more division between Trump supporters and Trump detractors.

Trump Firing Special Counsel Investigating Russian Connections A Possibility According To Attorney

"In an interview on Sunday, Jay Sekulow, one of Trump’s attorneys, alluded to the fact that he wouldn’t completely rule out the possibility that the president may fire Mueller from leading the investigation into Trump’s campaign. Why would he fire Mueller? Simply because he can.

ABC’s George Stephanopoulos was interviewing Sekulow on the program This Week on Sunday and the topic of the investigation came up. Stephanopoulos asked Sekulow if the president would give any assurance that he would not interfere in the investigation into Russian ties or order U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a man that many believe has already committed perjury on more than one occasion since he was sworn in for the position in early February, to fire Mueller. Sekulow’s response wasn’t particularly convincing.

“Look, the President of the United States, as we all know, is a unitary executive,” Sekulow said during the interview. “But the president is going to seek the advice of his counsel and inside the government as well as outside. And I’m not going to speculate on what he will, or will not, do.”

So, not only did Sekulow not give any assurance that Trump would pledge not to meddle in the investigation or have Mueller fired, he completely avoided acknowledging both points. In fact, Sekulow went on to add that he “can’t imagine” the issue of firing the head of the investigation would arise, but “that, again, is an issue that the president with his advisers would discuss if there was a basis.”

Nobody said getting to the bottom of the Russia scandal was going to be easy."

http://addictinginfo.com/2017/06/12/trum...-attorney/

Newt Gingrich, Conservative Pundits Turn On Special Counsel Mueller

"As the special counsel in charge of the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election assembled key staff, several prominent Trump supporters questioned his impartiality, and whether the appointment was necessary at all.

Bloomberg first reported on June 1, citing two unnamed people, that Department of Justice fraud chief and former FBI General Counsel Andrew Weissman would join special counsel Robert Mueller’s so-called “murderer’s row” of prosecutors. And the National Law Journal reported Friday, citing unnamed people familiar with the arrangement, that Deputy Solicitor General Michael Dreeben — who in 2016 argued his 100th case in front of the Supreme Court — would assist Mueller on a part-time basis.

Perhaps the biggest flip-flop among high-profile Trump supporters came from former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who changed justifications multiple times for his new opposition to Mueller.

When Mueller was first announced as the special counsel, Gingrich strongly praised him:

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However, speaking to radio host John Catsimatidis Sunday, as quoted by The Hill, Gingrich said Mueller’s position had been compromised by fired FBI Director James Comey’s admission that he had authorized a friend to pass details of his meetings with Trump to the press in order to justify a special counsel.

“I think Congress should now intervene and they should abolish the independent counsel, because Comey makes so clear that it’s the poison fruit of a deliberate manipulation by the FBI director leaking to the New York Times, deliberately set up this particular situation,” Gingrich said. “It’s very sick.”

The next day, he said evidence that Mueller wouldn’t be fair could be found in his new hires’ political donations.

Newt Gingrich ✔ @newtgingrich
Republicans are delusional if they think the special counsel is going to be fair. Look who he is hiring.check fec reports. Time to rethink.


Conservative provocateur Ann Coulter jumped on board Sunday, writing that Comey’s acknowledgement that he told Trump he wasn’t personally under investigation was grounds for dismissing Mueller altogether.

Ann Coulter ✔ @AnnCoulter
Now that we FINALLY got Comey to admit Trump not under investigation, Sessions should fire Mueller. Why do we need a special counsel now?


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NATIONAL TREASURE OF THE US STOLEN By Pakistan Awana! All US voter data stolen!

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Mueller should recuse himself.

He is good friends with Comey - conflict of interest.

He is involved with the sale of American uranium to Russia -conflict of interest.
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Trump is digging his own grave HM.
Stop complaining and let him keep digging.



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Spiddy  Wrote: (06-12-2017 11:51 PM)
Trump is digging his own grave HM.
Stop complaining and let him keep digging.

But if Trump fires Mueller, I can say: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!

Jhikpghf chuckle

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You're little revolution ain't goin' so well, huh? chuckle
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Actors cannot fire other actors, only the director via the script writers.

You have devoted your entire life to a lie, it was a complete waste of time.

If you were never born, nobody would even know the difference,

Keep on trucking though, it's all you have at this point.
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You're little revolution ain't goin' so well, huh? chuckle

Trump will be brought down like every asshole before him.

Conservatives believe that all* lives matter!


*Does not include Muslims, illegals, single parents, minorities, gays, the homeless, the poor, and anyone else who would not fit in 1950s suburbia.
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He Man  Wrote: (06-12-2017 11:56 PM)
Spiddy  Wrote: (06-12-2017 11:51 PM)
Trump is digging his own grave HM.
Stop complaining and let him keep digging.

But if Trump fires Mueller, I can say: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!

Jhikpghf chuckle

I hope if he fires him he says "Your Fired!" like he did on that reality show he used to be on.

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President Camacho  Wrote: (06-13-2017 12:03 AM)
He Man  Wrote: (06-12-2017 11:56 PM)
But if Trump fires Mueller, I can say: "I TOLD YOU SO!!!

Jhikpghf chuckle

I hope if he fires him he says "Your Fired!" like he did on that reality show he used to be on.

Apparently the US governments official line as tweeted by the president himself is that Donald Trump was a far better reality TV star than Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Such weighty affairs of state should always be reported with accuracy and due respect.



“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”


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Man Of Reason  Wrote: (06-13-2017 12:01 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-12-2017 11:58 PM)
You're little revolution ain't goin' so well, huh? chuckle

Trump will be brought down like every asshole before him.

Easy, comrade, you burst neck vein. chuckle
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Man Of Reason  Wrote: (06-13-2017 12:01 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-12-2017 11:58 PM)
You're little revolution ain't goin' so well, huh? chuckle

Trump will be brought down like every asshole before him.

If the Republicans and Fox News keeps making it a case of a "War against Trump" like they make the "War on Christmas" every year, then it could be a long process to get Trump impeached for obstruction of Justice or perjury or corruption, or some other high crime. Jhikpghf Cheer

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He Man  Wrote: (06-13-2017 12:20 AM)
Man Of Reason  Wrote: (06-13-2017 12:01 AM)
Trump will be brought down like every asshole before him.

If the Republicans and Fox News keeps making it a case of a "War against Trump" like they make the "War on Christmas" every year, then it could be a long process to get Trump impeached for obstruction of Justice or perjury or corruption, or some other high crime. Jhikpghf Cheer

It's not a war. chuckle

It's a bunch of trust fund baby-led whiney shenanigans which no one of import respects including the leaders that you idiot usefully for.
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I'm just glad I'm Yup again...Cheer

What's this thread about again??????
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"What will happen if President Trump fires the special prosecutor, Robert Mueller?"

"Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had every right to appoint a special prosecutor, but the president has every legal right to fire him. What would be the consequences?"

"JC Mitchell, Author, journalist, political essayist"
Answered May 19

"If Trump fires the special counsel, Mueller, that Rosenstein has appointed, it will just delay the inevitable. Trump can fire Rosenstein if he refuses to fire Mueller because the ethics laws that we had in place lapsed in 1999, after the Clinton impeachment proceedings. He can fire successively down the line until he gets what he wants…the special prosecutor removed. Congress needs to bipartisanly agree to institute the ethics laws that prevent a president from firing a special (or independent) prosecutor. There is much legal debate about this. After the Clinton impeachment, most of Congress thought that the independent prosecution process had too broad of powers and they feared it worked too well. So they allowed the laws to lapse. The legal debate about presidential immunity could be decided by the Supreme Court, but again that would take a great deal of time. Legal scholars debate whether it is a true separation of powers, and if the president is immune from criminal prosecution by someone like a US attorney or district attorney. Presidents can be charged after leaving office, but only after impeachment, removal of office, or resignation.

So will Trump fire the special counsel? It depends. We know he wants to, as evidenced by his Tweets already. However, would this also be evidence of obstruction of justice, “endeavor to influence, obstruct, impede…” as noted under 18 USC Section 1505? It well could be, since the investigation of former National Security Advisor Flynn is a pending proceeding. If Trump truly asked Comey to step away from the investigation as Comey has allegedly said, it is definitely obstruction of justice, because he knew of the investigation of Flynn before approaching Comey.

Trump could also directly fire Mueller if he repeals special counsel regulations. Read about this here: Perspective | Trump or Congress can still block Robert Mueller. I know. I wrote the rules.

Trump doesn't listen to wise advice, and has been known to overreact to mild incidents, so I would not be surprised if he makes an attempt to stall the investigation, or if he orders Rosenstein to fire Mueller ultimately. If Rosenstein refuses, Trump could fire him, and anyone else down the line until they obey his order to fire Mueller.

If Trump ultimately does succeed in firing Mueller, the media will go bonkers and fallout of epic proportions will ensue. Everyone will speculate that Trump is in fact guilty, because there would no real reason to fire a special counsel/prosecutor unless you had something ugly to hide. At that point I think even Ryan may pull his support because the backlash for the party would set them back significantly in the next primary election. The pressure from media, the opposing party and the outcry would be stupendous. Trump should just settle back in his chair and pray that Mueller uses discretion, because the special counsel has quite of bit of it when informing the Department of Justice of his findings. If he does fire Mueller, it will ultimately trigger a new investigation and a possible lawsuit of whether Mueller was fired for just cause.
It will be an hellacious firestorm for Trump, and if he feels pressured now, just wait."
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