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7 US Navy sailors found dead on the uss Fitzgerald
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Fluke  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:10 AM)
I don't get it.
They didn't search the "flooded compartments" first?
They waited until the ship was towed back to Nippon?
They could have been alive in an air pocket.
This is starting to stink like a Clinton.

No they would search after it was safely in port.

Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.


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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:11 AM)
Darn, RIP sailors.

You do not rest in peace at death of meat suit. It is time to stop using terms such as this which promote LIES and misbeliefs.

Nature is returning to equilibrium, the only thing being destroyed was never real to begin with - an artifice that has inevitably lost its hold on the hearts and minds of men. Some wait for the end, others give birth to the new.


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all the technology on those boats and trained personal and the massive space of the ocean and they colllide... makes no sence what so ever. The whole crew must have been drunk and passed out .
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 02:35 PM)
all the technology on those boats and trained personal and the massive space of the ocean and they colllide... makes no sence what so ever. The whole crew must have been drunk and passed out .

That was a theory for PT109 a fast small torpedo boat that was rammed by a bigger slower Japanese destroyer during WWII.
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Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (06-18-2017 03:21 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 02:35 PM)
all the technology on those boats and trained personal and the massive space of the ocean and they colllide... makes no sence what so ever. The whole crew must have been drunk and passed out .

That was a theory for PT109 a fast small torpedo boat that was rammed by a bigger slower Japanese destroyer during WWII.

Yeah, no missiles involved whatsoever. Nothing to see here.

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Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:54 AM)
Fluke  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:17 AM)
Photos I see don't show damage below waterline.
That's what pumps are for.
Check for life, then seal off.
Not adding up.

You can't see below the water line in the photos.
If you notice there is water pumping out the side in the photo and its in the area where the damage is.
We can assume the bilge pumps are pumping water from compartments below the visible damage.
If you examine the photos of the ACX Crystal there is at least one shot where you can see the bulbous bow the protrusion on the front under the water line that would have caused damage on the Fitzgerald under the water line.
In ancient times the structure of the bulbous bow was a reinforced section designed for causing ramming damage under the water line.
The modern structure exists on non combat vessels to reduce resistance by breaking waves, but it obviously still can cause significant damage when used as a ram either intentionally or not.

Interestingly for a conspiracy twist JFKs middle name was Fitzgerald and the story of his ship PT109 is a conspiracy theory in itself..
A fast tiny little torpedo boat broadsided by a Japanese destroyer and sank of course in the pacific neither ship fired on each other though it was during WWII and has been written off as an accident.

Ddid not pt109 lose power dead in water
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Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:54 AM)
You can't see below the water line in the photos.
If you notice there is water pumping out the side in the photo and its in the area where the damage is.
We can assume the bilge pumps are pumping water from compartments below the visible damage.
If you examine the photos of the ACX Crystal there is at least one shot where you can see the bulbous bow the protrusion on the front under the water line that would have caused damage on the Fitzgerald under the water line.
In ancient times the structure of the bulbous bow was a reinforced section designed for causing ramming damage under the water line.
The modern structure exists on non combat vessels to reduce resistance by breaking waves, but it obviously still can cause significant damage when used as a ram either intentionally or not.

Interestingly for a conspiracy twist JFKs middle name was Fitzgerald and the story of his ship PT109 is a conspiracy theory in itself..
A fast tiny little torpedo boat broadsided by a Japanese destroyer and sank of course in the pacific neither ship fired on each other though it was during WWII and has been written off as an accident.

Ddid not pt109 lose power dead in water

I have heard a lot of different stories about it.
They were drunk, it wasn't running had mechanical issues, they were running on one engine at low speed to reduce wake avoid being spotted..
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SHALL (not should) come right and/or reduce speed

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NOPE, KEEP CLEAR. SPECIFYING SPECIFIC ACTION COULD WELL BE INAPPROPRIATE OR COUNTER PRODUCTIVE.

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 10:41 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:24 AM)
Theres a billon sensors implemented in such warships.
Surveillance 24\7.
5 step failsaves
Etc etc
There is no way an approaching cargovessel could have gone unnoticed
Coverup and fake news again
Btw the ship has Video surveillance AS well
Cameras should have captured the incident
The human ego and the "cowboy-up" attitude overshadows and neutralizes all tools. They probably thought they could make it across the bow of the cargo ship in time (all rule 15 and rule 16 illegal). Same thing happened to the USS PORTER in the Straits of Hormuz several years ago.

You happen to know off hand what the punishment was for those errors?
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A cargo ship cannot navigate the same way a militarily vessel can, and by all accounts (and on NavyTimes.com) the USS Fitzgerald didn't follow proper procedures.

I'm more likely to respect that information over there, where those who have served -- even on the USS Fitzgerald -- than here on LOP where emotions and ego takes over.

Worth a looksie to see what others in that field think happened.
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The Ghost of ULP  Wrote: (06-18-2017 05:22 AM)
how did they collide?

Good question. I see no way a destroyer could collide with anything. Something is fishy here.

Cargo ship found with traces of NUKE material - person who reported it arrested!

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-771963.html
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:24 AM)
GREY LENSMAN  Wrote: (06-18-2017 08:13 AM)
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Too bad for those men, thinking the American government cared about them

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SORRY BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK.

1. PLAIN CRASH
2, HIGHWAY PILE UP
3. MINING ACCIDENT
4. TRAIN CRASH.

EVERYWHERE IN LIFE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN

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Theres a billon sensors implemented in such warships.
Surveillance 24\7.
5 step failsaves
Etc etc
There is no way an approaching cargovessel could have gone unnoticed
Coverup and fake news again
Btw the ship has Video surveillance AS well
Cameras should have captured the incident

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Word is coming out the people in the bridge at the time were muslim.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-18-2017 04:48 PM)
Word is coming out the people in the bridge at the time were muslim.

Aha!

Muslim Ring Within Federal Government !!!

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-771885.html

Cargo ship found with traces of NUKE material - person who reported it arrested!

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-771963.html

George Webb is a true American hero - here is the proof!

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-772123.html

We have connected the dots!
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Serious incident at JFK,Homeland snaches North Korean diplomatic package

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-772198.html

The dots have connected!
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