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If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
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Trustor/Grantor/Creator - those with numbers and jobs who pay into

Trustee/Administrator- United States

Beneficiary- Queen Elizabeth

Reverse Ponzi Scheme
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:33 PM)
I wonder why the IRS is headquartered offshore, in Puerto Rico...

My guess is because it is Unregulated there . D.C. and it's " Territories " have no written Trust Regulations . The IRS operates Extra Legally . Outside the Law because there is NO Law .

Where the Law does not Speak there is no Penalty is the Cannon / Maxim being followed .

The only thing that applies is recognized Trust Law and IRS breaches can only be Remedied through it's Use in an Equity Action if Administrative Process fails .

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:53 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:33 PM)
I wonder why the IRS is headquartered offshore, in Puerto Rico...

My guess is because it is Unregulated there . D.C. and it's " Territories " have no written Trust Regulations . The IRS operates Extra Legally . Outside the Law because there is NO Law .

Where the Law does not Speak there is no Penalty is the Cannon / Maxim being followed .

The only thing that applies is recognized Trust Law and IRS breaches can only be Remedied through it's Use in an Equity Action if Administrative Process fails .

The constitution is the law and the income tax is written into the constitution these days.
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Are the Social Security trust accounts revocable or irrrevocable?
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:53 PM)
Trustor/Grantor/Creator - those with numbers and jobs who pay into

Trustee/Administrator- United States

Beneficiary- Queen Elizabeth

Reverse Ponzi Scheme

Ponzi - Yes .

Trustor/Grantor/Creator - those with numbers and jobs who pay into

Where You get this Idea of Structure evades Me .

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Post: #21
RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:59 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:53 PM)
Trustor/Grantor/Creator - those with numbers and jobs who pay into

Trustee/Administrator- United States

Beneficiary- Queen Elizabeth

Reverse Ponzi Scheme

Ponzi - Yes .

Trustor/Grantor/Creator - those with numbers and jobs who pay into

Where You get this Idea of Structure evades Me .

How do you say its Structured?
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 03:02 PM)
How do you say its Structured?

Trustor/Grantor/Creator - those with numbers and jobs who pay into

That ain't it .

Otherwise sounding a lot like some one subjective enough to not really want to know .

If You do want to know start with some reading on Trust . This one is a good start . George Gleason Bogert is recognized authority on such matters .

Trust Law Primer
https://freedom-school.com/law/trust-law-primer.pdf

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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:57 PM)
Are the Social Security trust accounts revocable or irrrevocable?

The Individual Numbered Accounts or the Treasury Accounts ?

Honestly they are all " Trust" in name only U.S.( Inc . ) being in apparent Bankruptcy Reorganization since 1933 . Social Security proper did not evolve until 1935 in the Social Security Act , so was a child born into Poverty .

Social Security Contributions are collected as a Class 5 Gift and Estate Tax , on the presumed Estate of Citizenship . Citizenship only conveys a Right to exercise Rights . The Gift aspect of Class 5 removes the amount Contributed from any future claim of the Contributor .

Social Security Payouts are Gifts of the Government to the Receiver , therefore not a Requirement in any respect .

The Minds that thought this entire thing up . . . convoluted at best .

The withheld or Payed Forward amounts go directly into the General Fund of the UNITED STATES , not a Social Security managed Account . The Treasury Accounts are funded via the ( so called ) Budget that CONgress is supposed to agree on from time to time .

Formal Bankruptcy of UNITED STATES has not been declared . That Action would complicate a lot of these Racketeer doings . As I recall , the Maxim is A Bankrupt has no Sovereign Power .

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Post: #24
RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Its revocable
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:20 PM)
Does this mean she owes each person with a card?

Social Security is a big part of the U.S. debt.

179 trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities and 1.4 quadrillion dollars of grey market, OTC, Pink and rehypothecated derivative debt based on all cumulative failed capital fiat transactions since 1910. If translating the value of the capital lost and mis-managed, the crown of england currently owes two earth like planets. It is a sum and fortune that they would never be able to repay. Liquidation rules are in effect for the crown as will all corporate charters derived from common law of england in the repossession and leveling of their collective assets.

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 11:22 PM)
Its revocable

The derivative debt isn't. It's all still on the books and they still repackage it into junk bonds. That's 1.4 quadrillion dollars of debt sitting off side over the course of 100 years that they are completely and totally accountable for. It's why they should have f*cking stayed in their own f*cking sandbox. This will not be overlooked or dismissed because of their colossal ignorance. Being stupid is not an excuse in this matter at all.

Anyone here honestly believe that a society needs to invest time, energy or money into that level of failure? No, they don't. You don't accept other people's garbage. Their own fault, they are adults and are over due for the asskicking.

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Post: #27
RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:59 PM)
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:56 PM)
Does it matter ? Not to You apparently .

Does She own it ? I was wondering where You got such an idea in the first place . Is this making the rounds somewhere ?

Trustees do not Own the Trust Property they manage . Even if They put the Property into Trust in the first place .

Social Security is an account(s).

Who is the legal owner of the Social Security trust accounts?

Queen Elizabeth, right?

Probably government domain.

But why is she even a trustee of the funds? That's bizarre.
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 11:40 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:59 PM)
Social Security is an account(s).

Who is the legal owner of the Social Security trust accounts?

Queen Elizabeth, right?

Probably government domain.

But why is she even a trustee of the funds? That's bizarre.

They took over during the civil war. Then the fiat fixations and gold rush happened.

So who do you think 'they' are? Only one bunch of cun7s like both things. There's a reason traditionally in Europe they would hack these people's hands off and nail them to the town center barker circle. It's the warning to not stay long because everyone already know who 'they' are.

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Post: #29
RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
because the biggest con is believing one is king.
the world works on two functions.dirt and dollies.
men worry about getting the most things,which all turn to dust eventually,thus dirt.
women worry about children due to motherly instinct.thus dollies.
the two can be in conflict or cooperation depending on each current situation.
thus we are kids on a playground and the basics are dirt and dollies.
everything i ever needed to know,i learned in kindergarden!
so sayeth robomontu,lol !
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
CPL  Wrote: (06-19-2017 11:48 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 11:40 PM)
Probably government domain.

But why is she even a trustee of the funds? That's bizarre.

They took over during the civil war. Then the fiat fixations and gold rush happened.

So who do you think 'they' are? Only one bunch of cun7s like both things. There's a reason traditionally in Europe they would hack these people's hands off and nail them to the town center barker circle. It's the warning to not stay long because everyone already know who 'they' are.

The civil war was in the 90`s?
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