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If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
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stars If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
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Does this mean she owes each person with a card?

Social Security is a big part of the U.S. debt.
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
hmm,2million$ x 330million sheep=66x10^13$.plus liability as underwriter of all insurance.
i bet shes avoiding debt collecters,lol !
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:26 PM)
hmm,2million$ x 330million sheep=66x10^13$.plus liability as underwriter of all insurance.
i bet shes avoiding debt collecters,lol !

She owes each person with a card two million?

They could sure use the money...
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
What gave You the idea She Owns it ? She appears to be Head Trustee for some reason .
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Believe it or not, a type of social security was established in England by the Statute of Charitable Uses (43 Eliz. c. 4, 1601). In this Statute you will find every description that your social security number covers, and everything your income tax pays for.

A. "whereas lands, tenements, rents, annuities, profits, hereditament, goods, chattels, money and stocks of money have been heretofore given, limited, appointed and assigned, as well by the Queen's most excellent Majesty, and her most noble progenitors, as by sundry other well-disposed person; some for relief of aged, impotent and poor people, some for maintenance of sick and maimed soldiers and mariners, schools of learning, free schools and scholars in universities, some for repair of bridges, ports, havens, causeways, churches, sea-banks and HIGHWAYS, some for education and preferment of orphans, some for or toward relief, stock or maintenance for houses of correction, some for marriages of poor maids, some for supportation, aid and help of young tradesmen, handicraftsmen and persons decayed, and others for relief or redemption of prisoners or captives, and for aid or ease of any poor inhabitants concerning payments of fifteens, setting out of soldiers and OTHER TAXES ...***...
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From : Common Law Social Security

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:44 PM)
What gave You the idea She Owns it ? She appears to be Head Trustee for some reason .
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Believe it or not, a type of social security was established in England by the Statute of Charitable Uses (43 Eliz. c. 4, 1601). In this Statute you will find every description that your social security number covers, and everything your income tax pays for.

A. "whereas lands, tenements, rents, annuities, profits, hereditament, goods, chattels, money and stocks of money have been heretofore given, limited, appointed and assigned, as well by the Queen's most excellent Majesty, and her most noble progenitors, as by sundry other well-disposed person; some for relief of aged, impotent and poor people, some for maintenance of sick and maimed soldiers and mariners, schools of learning, free schools and scholars in universities, some for repair of bridges, ports, havens, causeways, churches, sea-banks and HIGHWAYS, some for education and preferment of orphans, some for or toward relief, stock or maintenance for houses of correction, some for marriages of poor maids, some for supportation, aid and help of young tradesmen, handicraftsmen and persons decayed, and others for relief or redemption of prisoners or captives, and for aid or ease of any poor inhabitants concerning payments of fifteens, setting out of soldiers and OTHER TAXES ...***...
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From : Common Law Social Security

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/2013120...urity.html

Does it matter where the idea came from?

Does she own it or not?
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
One other point : Being Vested in the Fund does not convey a Right to Receive . Suing for a Disbursement Share is futile without the Right .

No one HAS to pay anything out .

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
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One other point : Being Vested in the Fund does not convey a Right to Receive . Suing for a Disbursement Share is futile without the Right .

No one HAS to pay anything out .

So she does own it...
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:51 PM)
Does it matter where the idea came from?

Does she own it or not?

Does it matter ? Not to You apparently .

Does She own it ? I was wondering where You got such an idea in the first place . Is this making the rounds somewhere ?

Trustees do not Own the Trust Property they manage . Even if They put the Property into Trust in the first place .

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:56 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:51 PM)
Does it matter where the idea came from?

Does she own it or not?

Does it matter ? Not to You apparently .

Does She own it ? I was wondering where You got such an idea in the first place . Is this making the rounds somewhere ?

Trustees do not Own the Trust Property they manage . Even if They put the Property into Trust in the first place .

Social Security is an account(s).

Who is the legal owner of the Social Security trust accounts?

Queen Elizabeth, right?
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:53 PM)
So she does own it...

She would Control it . It's at " Arms Length " .

There is a little Business jag known as Bankruptcy for Profit . Example .

Someone is a Cabinet Maker and has collected all the tools . Wants to open a shop .

All the tools are put into a Trust . The Shop then rents the tools from the Trust . A proper transaction .

The shop operates for a time then the economy turns and customer base shrinks to the point of no return . The Shop declares Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and has debts wiped out .

The Shop Owns a stack of advertising fliers and the Lumber Rack . This the Creditors have to fight over for reimbursement .

Someone still has access to the tools that were Rented . The Trust , being a separate entity , is also a Creditor and has a Right to Sue for back Rent owed .

In this Social Security racket , the Queen is not a Vested Beneficiary , has no Interest in the Fund . She is at Arms Length . If She HAD an S.S. Account , She would not be and questions could arise .

Being Beneficiary of a Trust and being Trustee at the same time is not against Trust Law but may be against A Statute or Code . Depends on a lot on Circumstances of the Situation .

This is a bit complicated , but the way it goes .

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:18 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:53 PM)
So she does own it...

She would Control it . It's at " Arms Length " .

There is a little Business jag known as Bankruptcy for Profit . Example .

Someone is a Cabinet Maker and has collected all the tools . Wants to open a shop .

All the tools are put into a Trust . The Shop then rents the tools from the Trust . A proper transaction .

The shop operates for a time then the economy turns and customer base shrinks to the point of no return . The Shop declares Chapter 7 Bankruptcy and has debts wiped out .

The Shop Owns a stack of advertising fliers and the Lumber Rack . This the Creditors have to fight over for reimbursement .

Someone still has access to the tools that were Rented . The Trust , being a separate entity , is also a Creditor and has a Right to Sue for back Rent owed .

In this Social Security racket , the Queen is not a Vested Beneficiary , has no Interest in the Fund . She is at Arms Length . If She HAD an S.S. Account , She would not be and questions could arise .

Being Beneficiary of a Trust and being Trustee at the same time is not against Trust Law but may be against A Statute or Code . Depends on a lot on Circumstances of the Situation .

This is a bit complicated , but the way it goes .

If the Queen is beneficiary, who is the Trustee and Legal Owner of the Fund?
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:59 PM)
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:56 PM)
Does it matter ? Not to You apparently .

Does She own it ? I was wondering where You got such an idea in the first place . Is this making the rounds somewhere ?

Trustees do not Own the Trust Property they manage . Even if They put the Property into Trust in the first place .

Social Security is an account(s).

Who is the legal owner of the Social Security trust accounts?

Queen Elizabeth, right?

Nobody " Owns " it . The sham known as the " Social Security Administration " administers the Individual Numbered Accounts . The " Funds " are held in two designations , Old Age and Disability , which are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury .

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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:29 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:59 PM)
Social Security is an account(s).

Who is the legal owner of the Social Security trust accounts?

Queen Elizabeth, right?

Nobody " Owns " it . The sham known as the " Social Security Administration " administers the Individual Numbered Accounts . The " Funds " are held in two designations , Old Age and Disability , which are financial accounts in the U.S. Treasury .

The Trump Administration is who would over see the transfer of funds?

That sounds about right.
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RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
Heir  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:56 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 01:51 PM)
Does it matter where the idea came from?

Does she own it or not?

Does it matter ? Not to You apparently .

Does She own it ? I was wondering where You got such an idea in the first place . Is this making the rounds somewhere ?

Trustees do not Own the Trust Property they manage . Even if They put the Property into Trust in the first place .

I wonder why the IRS is headquartered offshore, in Puerto Rico...
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gmorning RE: If Queen Elizabeth owns American Social Security, how much does she Owe?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-19-2017 02:21 PM)
If the Queen is beneficiary, who is the Trustee and Legal Owner of the Fund?

The Queen is NOT Beneficiary , the question has no point .
Quote:The Trump Administration is who would over see the transfer of funds?

That sounds about right.

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