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Is Jesus coming back? No.
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Post: #46
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
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Justin Case  Wrote: (11-23-2018 08:37 PM)
Just to keep this simple, I bold highlighted key ideas. If this end was coming in their time, 2000 years ago, this is why the statements made say "YOU" ...



LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2018 08:04 PM)
Signs of the end times:

Matthew 24:12 “And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.”

“And you shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that you be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows” (Matthew 24:6-8)


Matthew 24:14 records: “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations; and then shall the end come.” “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world”

And just as an add on ...

Romans 1:8 ... I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.

Romans 16:25-26 "... according to the revelation of the mystery kept secret since the world began but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations ...."

Colossians 1:5-6 ... of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, which has come to you, as it has also in all the world ....

Colossians 1:23 ... the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven ....

The idea here again is that one would tend to think that god would have simply told them they were wrong ... but it didn't happen. The passing along of this overall "warning / coming end" was always in the context of their generation.




LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2018 08:04 PM)
Matthew 24:4-5 says: “And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many."

Matthew 24:23-26 says: “Then if any man shall say to you, See, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Why if they shall say to you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.”

Revelation 13:17 ...'And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.'

2 Thessalonians 2:3 ...'Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.'

Luke 17:28-30 ...'Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the spam is revealed.'

Again, the context was always preached that this "time" was in their generation.


LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2018 08:04 PM)
1 Timothy 4:1 ...'Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.'

Hosea 4:3 ...'Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.'

Matthew 24:7 ...'and earthquakes in divers places.'

1 Thessalonians 5:3 ...'For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them

Matthew 24:9-10 ...'Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.'

2 Timothy 4:3-4 ...'For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.'

Revelation 11:18 ...'And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.'

And again:

...the coming of the Lord is at hand. ...the Judge is standing right at the door. (James 5:7-9)

For yet in a very little while, He who is coming will come, and will not delay. (Heb.10:37)

Children, it is the last hour...from this we know that it is the last hour.
(1Jn.2:18)


There is no way around this ... I first started to look at this picture a dozen years ago, and there is no hole that I ever found.

There are religious groups that have seen the same thing, and go off on their own interpretations saying Jesus returned 2000 years ago ... it just doesn't stop.

People prefer to believe what they prefer to be true ... and that is totally up to you.

2 John 1:7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
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Post: #47
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
Matthew 24:36 ESV
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Even Jesus does not know when he will return.
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Post: #48
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:03 AM)
Matthew 24:36 ESV
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Even Jesus does not know when he will return.

This verse does once again prove Jesus is not God.
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RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
DrVIP  Wrote: (11-24-2018 01:16 AM)
You are not neutral.

If you were neutral your kneejerk reaction to me proving my religion would not be - "you are just trying to prove your religion and thus you are not neutral"

Let me explain this - neutrality - idea. I don't believe or dismiss anything ... I go by the information that has created the subject. I look at everything for as long as it takes, and I keep checking it.

I don't have a "religion" ... I have a belief that the main "subject" is similar in a lot of ways to what we hear, but, that's as close as it gets. I don't particularly care what you, or anyone else "believes" ... because it's all up to the person. When you die, it isn't going to be about beliefs ... it's going to be about the personality ... as in everyone goes where they belong.

DrVIP  Wrote: (11-24-2018 01:16 AM)
Well mister Justin Case... It is perfectly possible for a member of a religion to prove said religion for it is possible that one religion is true.

I haven't seen it yet.

DrVIP  Wrote: (11-24-2018 01:16 AM)
You are hiding an underlying assumption you are operating under - it being - that no religion is true.
As said - I haven't seen it yet. There is more to be learned via a study of the paranormal than there is a study of religion ... because "experiences" that tell you "things" may be "spiritual" ... but a look at the given information shows a real problem.

DrVIP  Wrote: (11-24-2018 01:16 AM)
Now lets see you stuttering and deflecting if you would even comprehend what I have just argued.

This is why I avoid talking with you ... and even questioned myself regarding writing the post that started this conversation. You have an underlying problem ... I would suggest therapy.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


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Post: #50
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:03 AM)
Matthew 24:36 ESV
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Even Jesus does not know when he will return.

But the CONTEXT regarding the ENTIRE PICTURE GIVEN was - THEIR GENERATION.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


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Post: #51
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:04 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:03 AM)
Matthew 24:36 ESV
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Even Jesus does not know when he will return.

This verse does once again prove Jesus is not God.

False.

He lowered Himself to His humanity.

He did not know then.

Then, after His Ascension, He was given all power.

He most certainly knows now.

You have no understanding because you do not want it.

Jesus Christ knows.
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Post: #52
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:10 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:03 AM)
Matthew 24:36 ESV
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Even Jesus does not know when he will return.

But the CONTEXT regarding the ENTIRE PICTURE GIVEN was - THEIR GENERATION.
That was intention for them.

They did not fulfill it.

Hence - The Church Age.

You have no understanding because you do not want it.

You want only to reject Him.

As You Will, Your Will will be done.

Don't blame Him when He allows you to not be with Him eternally.
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Post: #53
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
That was HIS intention for them then at that time.
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RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:26 AM)
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:10 AM)
But the CONTEXT regarding the ENTIRE PICTURE GIVEN was - THEIR GENERATION.
That was intention for them.

They did not fulfill it.

Hence - The Church Age.

You have no understanding because you do not want it.

You want only to reject Him.

As You Will, Your Will will be done.

Don't blame Him when He allows you to not be with Him eternally.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:27 AM)
That was HIS intention for them then at that time.

Uh huh ... so in the overall picture, confusion reigns, it was never corrected, and, too bad for us.
Guess what - W R O N G!

chuckle

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


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Post: #55
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:10 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:03 AM)
Matthew 24:36 ESV
“But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only.

Even Jesus does not know when he will return.

But the CONTEXT regarding the ENTIRE PICTURE GIVEN was - THEIR GENERATION.

Then who lied?

Did Jesus lie, or did he never exist and was never raised from the dead?
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RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:55 AM)
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:10 AM)
But the CONTEXT regarding the ENTIRE PICTURE GIVEN was - THEIR GENERATION.

Then who lied?

Did Jesus lie, or did he never exist and was never raised from the dead?

Details regarding the given picture are undefinable ... but the bottom line is - it was wrong - and THAT is the important part.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


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Post: #57
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 03:22 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 02:55 AM)
Then who lied?

Did Jesus lie, or did he never exist and was never raised from the dead?

Details regarding the given picture are undefinable ... but the bottom line is - it was wrong - and THAT is the important part.

Was it wrong or was there never a Jesus at all?

John wrote:

1 John 2:18

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

which would mean it was near, like Peter wrote

1 Peter 4:7

The end of all things is near; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer.

coming quickly as in revelation 22;12

"Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.

They all write the same thing.

Clearly "the last hour" as john wrote couldn't exactly mean what it said, would it now? Or would it?
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RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 04:02 AM)
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 03:22 AM)
Details regarding the given picture are undefinable ... but the bottom line is - it was wrong - and THAT is the important part.

Was it wrong or was there never a Jesus at all?

Keep it simple ... we weren't there ... all we have is what was passed down to us.



LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 04:02 AM)
John wrote:

1 John 2:18

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

which would mean it was near, like Peter wrote

1 Peter 4:7

The end of all things is near; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer.

coming quickly as in revelation 22;12

"Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.

They all write the same thing.

Clearly "the last hour" as john wrote couldn't exactly mean what it said, would it now? Or would it?

If it doesn't "mean what it says" - then language is useless. Everything was supposed to happen 2000 rounded years ago ... and, it never happened.

“The present contains nothing more than the past,
and what is found in the effect was already in the cause.” - Henri Bergson


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Post: #59
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-23-2018 05:53 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2018 04:42 PM)
Why do you work so hard at this ?

Why do you you NOT work hard at this?

You STILL haven't approached the scriptures that define this picture, you ignore them. Why? Because you know you can't come up with an answer.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2018 04:42 PM)
You are working for the controllers aka Satan

"Satan" was a religious attempt to define a bio-mechanical "brain problem" that they didn't understand.

It's really no different than understanding that the "Feast of the Sun God" (what we call December 25th) was a religious approach that defined an astronomical event. They said the sun was "reborn" ... winter (however that played out - the perceived coming "death" of the sun) was over - and the sun god was reborn and it would show as time went on - the sun getting "stronger."

We know for a fact this isn't true ... it's just the improper identification of an astronomical event.


LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2018 04:42 PM)
2000 years ago the power of Satan was destroyed

That was the end of the World for many people

The only way the controllers aka Satan

Have any power

Is if you accept that power structure

Which you have done

Now within that power structure

You have to rewrite history to make your leader king again

I don't have to, and haven't, rewritten anything ... all I did was present the picture as it WAS written - a picture that said the physical earth was going down the tubes, destroyed by fire.

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.


The context of this destruction, as laid out in other verses, was expected in their generation. Period.

You are rewriting history are the time by your constant denial of history

Why do you use the words of a God that you say doesn't exist

Why don’t you use the scripture from you own good book

What ever the hell that is
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Post: #60
RE: Is Jesus coming back? No.
Justin Case  Wrote: (11-24-2018 04:13 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 04:02 AM)
Was it wrong or was there never a Jesus at all?

Keep it simple ... we weren't there ... all we have is what was passed down to us.



LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-24-2018 04:02 AM)
John wrote:

1 John 2:18

Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have appeared; from this we know that it is the last hour.

which would mean it was near, like Peter wrote

1 Peter 4:7

The end of all things is near; therefore, be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer.

coming quickly as in revelation 22;12

"Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done.

They all write the same thing.

Clearly "the last hour" as john wrote couldn't exactly mean what it said, would it now? Or would it?

If it doesn't "mean what it says" - then language is useless. Everything was supposed to happen 2000 rounded years ago ... and, it never happened.

if it doesn't mean what it says, then everything could still be happening.
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